From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= Subject: Re: Stable ab/i18n branch Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:35:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7v39s9fkk1.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20101014200027.GA18813@burratino> <20101014205413.GD28958@burratino> <20101015000749.GD29494@burratino> <20101015052810.GB21830@burratino> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, Erik Faye-Lund To: Jonathan Nieder X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Oct 15 07:35:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6cxK-0000z0-OP for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:35:51 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755371Ab0JOFfq convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:35:46 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f46.google.com ([209.85.161.46]:55062 "EHLO mail-fx0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753232Ab0JOFfp convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:35:45 -0400 Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so220556fxm.19 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:35:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X5xQNj4/jaabVEdJ213ZXlA5ngTA9qP5dK5w/1j3tq8=; b=P/2xR62UuyUFhYXAPToqUxYiSZKULMXgkJzXt0i45KqknOfTKzys3fgmMbBb9alv2k A7xppk1kVhJuNi4utBxyJW1xaQYu5VNJnxDDinWboHFERNJxfSjWipxK7FqVL0IOOtza mGTWQHJdxXRn4VvPfZxvPibkOLInJb6zqxd3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BbHt8fL15BDRxn/QATKU1c+XrPFOZluPrf2hyIUaeinrCXAu9umniNN6YzFzLfMJkN Qmsi+l9hsltQ5btae6trHsLqDRsPFu/C6ps9T2ZPgCrsahgtGDoWDsWyCQl1JJ3smJs1 8JDlk/zJEXpv6x0ZrgaJmnxlO4NsaaU0XhBSQ= Received: by 10.102.83.1 with SMTP id g1mr79332mub.47.1287120944187; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.119.17 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:35:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101015052810.GB21830@burratino> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 05:28, Jonathan Nieder wro= te: > =C3=86var Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0 Bjarmason wrote: > >> No benefit? The benefit is that the program they previously either >> didn't understand or understood poorly is now talking to them in the= ir >> native language. That's a pretty big benefit. > > And for the languages that are not translated yet? Yeah those would get odd regressions with no benefit, unfortunately. > Don't get me wrong --- I'm only trying to give a sense of what it is > like for a user to experience a regression. =C2=A0It is generally lit= tle > solace that someone else's use case is supported better. Understood. And it's certainly good that these things are pointed out. >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 So unless someone else is interested in helping= audit all that >> code, providing a printf() fallback on glibc etc. it'll block the i1= 8n >> series. > > Oh, I never meant to say that this should be a blocker. =C2=A0Only th= at > there really are costs and benefits to weigh. > > Much more important than the known bugs are the unknown bugs --- > you've heard this before, I think. =C2=A0The way to get rid of unknow= n bugs > (aside from inspecting code) is to get users. > > For example, if Gerrit doesn't mind, I would like to apply your > patches to experimental once the version being staged for squeeze > clears from there. That would be great. Let me know if I can help with that in some way.