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From: Alexey Muranov <alexey.muranov@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: mhagger@alum.mit.edu, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Martin von Zweigbergk <martin.von.zweigbergk@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:07:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AA92444F-B359-4C46-A1E2-13049C44C6D9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vehn3rbom.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On 19 Aug 2012, at 02:02, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Alexey Muranov <alexey.muranov@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I hope my opinion might be useful because i do not know anything
>> about the actual implementation of Git,...
> 
> That sounds like contradiction.

I think that the implementation (the code), the model, and the interface are independent.
On the top level, for example, one does not need to know how commit storage is optimized, it is enough to understand that each commit is a snapshot of a subtree in a file directory.

>> To just give a quick idea of my ideas, i thought that 'fetching'
>> in Git was an inevitable evil that stands apart from other
>> operations and is necessary only because the computer
>> communication on Earth is not sufficiently developed to keep all
>> Git repositories constantly in sync,...
> 
> It is a feature, not a symptom of an insufficiently developed
> technology, that I do not have to know what random tweaks and
> experiments are done in repositories of 47 thousands people who
> clone from me, and I can sync with any one of them only when I know
> there is something worth looking at when I say "git fetch".

Currently, one of the main functions of 'fetch', apart from changing the remote tracking branches, is downloading the remote objects.  This is necessary because of an insufficiently developed technology.

The other main function is changing the local copies of remote branches (changing the remote tracking branches), this is what i described as "taking a snapshot".

I did not understand what you meant by

  "I do not have to know what random tweaks and experiments are done in repositories of 47 thousands people who clone from me, and I can sync with any one of them only when I know there is something worth looking at when I say "git fetch"."

How is it possible to know and not to know what is going on in the remote repository in the same time?

-Alexey.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-19  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-19  7:30 Feature request: fetch --prune by default Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 11:55 ` Jeff King
2012-07-19 14:03   ` Dan Johnson
2012-07-19 15:11     ` Stefan Haller
2012-08-16 23:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-21  6:51       ` Jeff King
2013-06-20 19:22     ` Sam Roberts
2012-07-19 16:21   ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 17:34     ` Konstantin Khomoutov
2012-07-19 21:20       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 21:57         ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-20  7:11         ` Johannes Sixt
2012-07-20  7:28           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-16 23:27             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 16:40   ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 16:48     ` Dan Johnson
2012-07-19 16:51       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 21:32   ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] reflog graveyard Jeff King
2012-07-19 21:33     ` [PATCH 1/3] retain reflogs for deleted refs Jeff King
2012-07-19 22:23       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-20 14:26         ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 14:32           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-19 22:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 14:43         ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 15:07           ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 15:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 15:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 15:50             ` Jeff King
2012-08-16 23:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20  9:49       ` Michael Haggerty
2012-07-20 15:44         ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 16:37           ` Johannes Sixt
2012-07-20 17:09             ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 11:03               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-26 12:47               ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-07-26 16:26                 ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-26 16:41                   ` Matthieu Moy
2012-07-26 16:59                     ` Jeff King
2012-07-26 17:24                       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-26 17:46               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-26 17:52                 ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 11:10           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-22 11:12             ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-22 13:14             ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 14:40               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-07-22 15:50                 ` Jeff King
2012-07-20 16:32         ` Johannes Sixt
2012-08-18 17:14       ` [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change mhagger
2012-08-18 17:14         ` [RFC 1/3] t9300: format test in modern style prior to modifying it mhagger
2012-08-18 17:14         ` [RFC 2/3] Delete reflogs for dead references to allow pruning mhagger
2012-08-21  8:33           ` Jeff King
2012-08-18 17:14         ` [RFC 3/3] Change naming convention for the reflog graveyard mhagger
2012-08-18 20:39         ` [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change Junio C Hamano
2012-08-18 21:11           ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19  0:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-19  7:07               ` Alexey Muranov [this message]
2012-08-19  7:15               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19 11:28               ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19 17:38                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-19 22:09                   ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-20  0:26                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-20  1:01                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-20 11:32                       ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-20 11:57                         ` Alexey Muranov
2012-08-19 13:19           ` Michael Haggerty
2012-08-19 16:27             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-21  8:27           ` Jeff King
2012-08-21 17:56             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 21:33     ` [PATCH 2/3] teach sha1_name to look in graveyard reflogs Jeff King
2012-07-19 22:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-20 15:53         ` Jeff King
2012-07-22 20:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-19 21:33     ` [PATCH 3/3] add tests for reflogs of deleted refs Jeff King

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