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From: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
To: "Randall S. Becker" <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] Add tar extract install options override in installation processing.
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:24:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b7bf754-90bd-c25c-f5ae-124dcd97d281@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <019601d391f4$dd367de0$97a379a0$@nexbridge.com>

Am 20.01.2018 um 14:44 schrieb Randall S. Becker:
> On January 20, 2018 7:31 AM, René Scharfe wrote:
>> Am 19.01.2018 um 18:34 schrieb randall.s.becker@rogers.com:
>>> From: "Randall S. Becker" <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>
>>> 
>>> * Makefile: Add TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS to allow platform options to
>>> be specified if needed. The default is xof.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Randall S. Becker <rsbecker@nexbridge.com> --- 
>>> Makefile | 6 +++++- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1
>>> deletion(-)
>>> 
>>> diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index 1a9b23b67..040e9eacd
>>> 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -429,6 +429,9 @@ all:: #
>>> running the test scripts (e.g., bash has better support for "set
>>> -x" # tracing). # +# Define TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS if you want to
>>> change the default +behaviour # from xvf to something else during
>>> installation.
>> 
>> "xof" instead of "xvf"?
> 
> When I look at the parent commit, it says xof, so I wanted to
> preserve existing behaviour by default. Our install process wants to
> see the actual set of files, so we wanted to use xvof but that hardly
> seemed of general interest. I was hoping an option to control it
> would be agreeable.

Preserving the default is good. I meant that the default is "xof",
but the added line implies it was "xvf" instead.

Seeing your actual use case confirms that my suggestion below would
work for you.

> 
>>> +# # When cross-compiling, define HOST_CPU as the canonical name
>>> of the
>> CPU on
>>> # which the built Git will run (for instance "x86_64").
>>> 
>>> @@ -452,6 +455,7 @@ LDFLAGS = ALL_CFLAGS = $(CPPFLAGS) $(CFLAGS) 
>>> ALL_LDFLAGS = $(LDFLAGS) STRIP ?= strip +TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS =
>>> xof
>>> 
>>> # Create as necessary, replace existing, make ranlib unneeded. 
>>> ARFLAGS = rcs @@ -2569,7 +2573,7 @@ install: all ifndef
>>> NO_GETTEXT $(INSTALL) -d -m 755 '$(DESTDIR_SQ)$(localedir_SQ)' 
>>> (cd po/build/locale && $(TAR) cf - .) | \ -	(cd
>>> '$(DESTDIR_SQ)$(localedir_SQ)' && umask 022 && $(TAR) xof -) +
>>> (cd '$(DESTDIR_SQ)$(localedir_SQ)' && umask 022 && $(TAR) 
>>> +$(TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS) -)
>> 
>> Hmm.  TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS always needs to have f (or -f, or --file)
>> at the end to go together with the following dash, meaning to
>> extract from stdin. And x (or -x, or --extract) is probably needed
>> in all cases as well.  So wouldn't it make more sense to only put
>> the o (or -o, or --no-same-owner) into TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS and
>> enforce x and f?
> 
> This is a good suggestion, and I'd love to do that, if I could
> guarantee a modern tar, which I can't. The platform comes with a
> really old-school tar from some old (seemingly BSD4.3) epoch that
> only takes one option set. There is a more modern tar that can be
> optionally installed if the sysadmin decides to that takes a slightly
> more modern set, which could support your request, and my team also
> has a gnu port that is very modern. I can't control what customers
> are choosing to have installed, unfortunately. Your point is well
> made and I am completely on board with it, but it introduces a
> configuration requirement.

Long options would be nice to nice to have, but are not my main
point; I included them mainly to spare readers from firing up
"man tar" to look up the meaning of the short ones.

I just meant to say that something like this here would make more
sense because you always need x and f- anyway:

	TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS = o

	... ${TAR} x${TAR_EXTRACT_OPTIONS}f -

> As with the broadening setbuf (patch 2/6) change, I would like to
> consider this for the future, having a slightly different more
> complex idea. I could introduce something like this:
> 
> 1. HAS_ANCIENT_TAR=UnfortunatelyYes in config.mak.uname that disables
> this capability all together 2. HAS_ANCIENT_TAR=AreYouKiddingMe
> (joke) then set up TAR_EXTRACT_ADDITIONAL_OPTIONS above and beyond
> the default, so --file, --no-same-owner would always be in effect for
> that operation.
> 
> The micro-project would also, logically, need to apply to other tar
> occurrences throughout the code and potentially need a test case
> written for it (not entirely sure what that would test, yet).
> Is that a reasonable approach?

As long as old-school dash-less flags suffice for our purposes
(including yours) we can just keep using that style everywhere and
avoid adding more settings.  It would be a different matter if we
needed features that have no short flag, or are only offered by
certain tar implementations.

René


  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-20 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-19 17:33 [PATCH v2 0/6] Force pipes to flush immediately on NonStop platform randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Cover Letter for NonStop Port Patches randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Bypass GCC attributes on NonStop platform where used randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 19:25   ` Stefan Beller
2018-01-19 20:28   ` Ramsay Jones
2018-01-19 21:20     ` Jeff King
2018-01-19 22:43       ` Ramsay Jones
2018-01-19 22:53         ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Add tar extract install options override in installation processing randall.s.becker
2018-01-20 12:30   ` René Scharfe
2018-01-20 13:44     ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-20 14:24       ` René Scharfe [this message]
2018-01-20 15:35         ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-20 20:34           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-20 20:52             ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] Define config options required for the HPE NonStop NSX and NSE platforms randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] Force test suite traps to be cleared for NonStop ksh randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 19:55   ` Stefan Beller
2018-01-19 21:27   ` Jeff King
2018-01-19 22:29     ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-19 23:29       ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-21  4:07       ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] Bring NonStop platform definitions up to date in git-compat-util.h randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Add intptr_t and uintptr_t to regcomp.c for NonStop platform randall.s.becker
2018-01-19 19:34 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Force pipes to flush immediately on " Stefan Beller
2018-01-20 11:10 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-01-20 13:23   ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-22 22:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-22 22:43     ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-23 18:13       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-23 20:46         ` Randall S. Becker
2018-01-25  3:42         ` Randall S. Becker

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