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From: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Properly align memory allocations and temporary buffers
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 22:56:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97D2AB55-0F8F-4C38-A5C6-1AAA43EA064A@jrtc27.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh7agbiuq.fsf@gitster.g>

On 6 Jan 2022, at 22:27, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
> 
>> (+cc René as another possible reviewer)
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 01:23:24PM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote:
>>> Currently git_qsort_s allocates a buffer on the stack that has no
>>> alignment, and mem_pool_alloc assumes uintmax_t's size is adequate
>>> alignment for any type.
>>> 
>>> On CHERI, and thus Arm's Morello prototype, pointers are implemented as
>>> hardware capabilities which, as well as having a normal integer address,
>>> have additional bounds, permissions and other metadata in a second word,
>>> so on a 64-bit architecture they are 128-bit quantities, including their
>>> alignment requirements. Despite being 128-bit, their integer component
>>> is still only a 64-bit field, so uintmax_t remains 64-bit, and therefore
>>> uintmax_t does not sufficiently align an allocation.
> 
> Alignment aside, if uintmax_t is 64-bit but your pointer needs
> 128-bit to store, saving a pointer value in uintmax_t variable would
> not work correctly, I presume, as casting the 64-bit integral type
> back into pointer would not be sufficient to recover the lost
> information that used to be in the second word.
> 
> So, does the architecture have 128-bit uintptr_t and that is a safe
> type both from the point of view of alignment and from the point of
> view of not losing information?  

Yes. It is basically just a char * that lets you perform arbitrary
arithmetic; not an unsigned long any more for our architectures.

> If that type is larger than uintmax_t, something smells wrong,
> though.  max is not max anymore at that point.
> 
> IIRC, uintptr_t is optional in C99, so a simpler solution to use the
> larger type between uintptr_t and uintmax_t as a replacement for how
> we use uintmax_t would not quite work out of the box X-<.

This is also true of uint128_t, it doesn’t fit in a uintmax_t either.
uintmax_t was a mistake as it becomes part of the ABI and can never be
revised even when new integer types come along. uintmax_t can hold any
valid address, but will strip the metadata. It turns out almost no
software tries to put a pointer in a uintmax_t and cast it back to a
pointer.

Note that, even if we wanted to, we coldn't just map uintmax_t to a
uintptr_t, as on 32-bit architectures uintmax_t is a 64-bit integer but
uintptr_t only has a 32-bit range (plus 32 bits of metadata), and we do
have a 32-bit CHERI variant for embedded use cases.

This is one of a few warts that people will just have to deal with for
CHERI; there’s no way round it if you want anything that implements the
ideas of CHERI.

Jess


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-06 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-05 13:23 [PATCH] Properly align memory allocations and temporary buffers Jessica Clarke
2022-01-06 21:46 ` Taylor Blau
2022-01-06 21:56   ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-06 22:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-06 22:56     ` Jessica Clarke [this message]
2022-01-07  0:10       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-07  0:22         ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-07  0:31         ` brian m. carlson
2022-01-07  0:39           ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-07  1:43             ` brian m. carlson
2022-01-07  2:08               ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-07  2:11                 ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-07 19:30               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-07 19:33                 ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-07 20:56                 ` René Scharfe
2022-01-07 21:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-07 23:30                     ` René Scharfe
2022-01-08  0:18                       ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-06 23:22 ` brian m. carlson
2022-01-06 23:31   ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-07 14:57 ` Philip Oakley
2022-01-07 16:08 ` René Scharfe
2022-01-07 16:21   ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-12 13:58 ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-12 15:47   ` René Scharfe
2022-01-12 15:49     ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH v2] mem-pool: Don't assume uintmax_t is aligned enough for all types Jessica Clarke
2022-01-23 20:17   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-23 20:23     ` Jessica Clarke
2022-01-23 20:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-23 20:33   ` [PATCH v3] " Jessica Clarke
2022-01-24 17:11     ` Junio C Hamano

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