From: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mingw: handle writes to non-blocking pipe
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 19:35:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <976ac297-28ec-0a38-c4e1-eb7b94d0eb8c@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvTCIVN2VBir7WEP@coredump.intra.peff.net>
Am 11.08.2022 um 10:47 schrieb Jeff King:
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:34:46AM +0200, René Scharfe wrote:
>
>>> OK, so we call GetNamedPipeInfo() to find the size of the pipe buffer.
>>> It's unclear to me from Microsoft's docs if that is the _total_ size, or
>>> if it's the remaining available size. Hopefully the latter, since none
>>> of this works otherwise. ;)
>>>
>>> But two corner cases:
>>>
>>> - If we fail to get the size, we guess that it's the maximum. Is this
>>> dangerous? I'm not sure why the call would fail, but if for some
>>> reason it did fail and we can't make forward progress, would we
>>> enter an infinite recursion of mingw_write()? Would it be safer to
>>> bail with EAGAIN in such a case (through granted, that probably just
>>> puts us into an infinite loop in xwrite())?
>>
>> AFAIU it's the total size, not the available space. I think I confused
>> it with PIPE_BUF, which we should use instead.
>
> Hmm. If it's giving us the total size, that seems like it may fail in a
> case like this:
>
> - we write a smaller amount to the pipe, say 7168 bytes. That leaves
> 1024 bytes in the buffer. The reader reads nothing yet.
>
> - now we try to write another 4096 bytes. That's too big, so we get
> ENOSPC. But when we ask for the pipe size, it tells us 8192. So we
> _don't_ try to do a partial write of the remaining size, and return
> EAGAIN. But now we've made no forward progress (i.e., even though
> poll() said we could write, we don't, and we end up in the xwrite
> loop).
>
> So we really do want to try to get a partial write. Even a single byte
> means we are making forward progress.
>
>> Alternatively we could retry with ever smaller sizes, down to one byte,
>> to avoid EAGAIN as much as possible. Sounds costly, though.
>
> It's definitely not optimal, but it may not be too bad. If we cut the
> size in half each time, then at worst we make log2(N) extra write
> attempts, and we end up with a partial write within 50% of the optimal
> size.
OK, but we can't just split anything up as we like: POSIX wants us to
keep writes up to PIPE_BUF atomic. When I read that name I mistakenly
thought it was the size of the pipe buffer, but it's a different value.
The minimum value according to POSIX is 512 bytes; on Linux it's 4KB.
And Windows doesn't seem to define it. Bash's ulimit -p returns 8,
which is in units of 512 bytes, so it's 4KB like on Linux. But that's
apparently not respected by Windows' write.
I just realized that we can interprete the situation slightly
differently. Windows has effectively PIPE_BUF = 2^32, which means all
writes are atomic. I don't see POSIX specifying a maximum allowed
value, so this must be allowed. Which means you cannot rely on write
performing partial writes. Makes sense?
If we accept that, then we need a special write function for
non-blocking pipes that chops the data into small enough chunks.
Another oddity: t3701 with yesterday's patch finishes fine with -i, but
hangs without it (not just when running it via prove). O_o
René
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-11 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-02 4:13 [RFC/PATCH] pipe_command(): mark stdin descriptor as non-blocking Jeff King
2022-08-02 15:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02 15:39 ` Jeff King
2022-08-02 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-03 3:53 ` [PATCH v2] " Jeff King
2022-08-03 16:45 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-03 17:20 ` Jeff King
2022-08-03 21:56 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-05 15:36 ` Jeff King
2022-08-05 21:13 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-07 10:15 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-07 17:41 ` Jeff King
2022-08-10 5:39 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-10 19:53 ` Jeff King
2022-08-10 22:35 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-11 8:52 ` Jeff King
2022-08-10 5:39 ` [PATCH] mingw: handle writes to non-blocking pipe René Scharfe
2022-08-10 9:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-10 20:02 ` Jeff King
2022-08-10 22:34 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-11 8:47 ` Jeff King
2022-08-11 17:35 ` René Scharfe [this message]
2022-08-11 18:20 ` Jeff King
2022-08-14 15:37 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-17 5:39 ` Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] fix pipe_command() deadlock Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] compat: add function to enable nonblocking pipes Jeff King
2022-08-17 20:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-18 5:41 ` Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:05 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] nonblock: support Windows Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] git-compat-util: make MAX_IO_SIZE define globally available Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:08 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pipe_command(): avoid xwrite() for writing to pipe Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:09 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] pipe_command(): handle ENOSPC when writing to a pipe Jeff King
2022-08-17 18:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-18 5:38 ` Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:10 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] pipe_command(): mark stdin descriptor as non-blocking Jeff King
2022-08-17 6:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] fix pipe_command() deadlock Jeff King
2022-08-19 21:19 ` René Scharfe
2022-08-20 7:04 ` Jeff King
2022-08-07 10:14 ` [PATCH v2] pipe_command(): mark stdin descriptor as non-blocking René Scharfe
2022-08-08 12:55 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-08 12:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-09 13:04 ` Jeff King
2022-08-09 22:10 ` Johannes Schindelin
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