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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>, gitgitgadget@gmail.com
Cc: git <git@vger.kernel.org>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' verb
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:45:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <931d481e-8b9f-0f1f-e455-10111ec7b0dc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kaNJ8=iCunkeeHnMcOwFik9D-V4g9o7SuvLnnM0vvfBnA@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/10/2018 8:54 PM, Stefan Beller wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:06 AM Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
> <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From: Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
>>
>> In an environment where the multi-pack-index is useful, it is due
>> to many pack-files and an inability to repack the object store
>> into a single pack-file. However, it is likely that many of these
>> pack-files are rather small, and could be repacked into a slightly
>> larger pack-file without too much effort. It may also be important
>> to ensure the object store is highly available and the repack
>> operation does not interrupt concurrent git commands.
>>
>> Introduce a 'repack' verb to 'git multi-pack-index' that takes a
>> '--batch-size' option. The verb will inspect the multi-pack-index
>> for referenced pack-files whose size is smaller than the batch
>> size, until collecting a list of pack-files whose sizes sum to
>> larger than the batch size. Then, a new pack-file will be created
>> containing the objects from those pack-files that are referenced
>> by the multi-pack-index. The resulting pack is likely to actually
>> be smaller than the batch size due to compression and the fact
>> that there may be objects in the pack-files that have duplicate
>> copies in other pack-files.
> This highlights an optimization problem: How do we pick the
> batches optimally?
> Ideally we'd pick packs that have an overlap of many
> same objects to dedup them completely, next best would
> be to have objects that are very similar, such that they delta
> very well.
> (Assuming that the sum of the resulting pack sizes is a metric
> we'd want to optimize for eventually)
>
> For now it seems we just take a random cut of "small" packs.
>
>> The current change introduces the command-line arguments, and we
>> add a test that ensures we parse these options properly. Since
>> we specify a small batch size, we will guarantee that future
>> implementations do not change the list of pack-files.
> This is another clever trick that makes the test correct
> despite no implementation yet. :-)
>
>> +repack::
>> +       When given as the verb, collect a batch of pack-files whose
>> +       size are all at most the size given by --batch-size,
> okay.
>
>>   but
>> +       whose sizes sum to larger than --batch-size.
> or less if there are not enough packs.

If there are not enough packs to reach the batch size, then we do nothing.

> Now it would be interesting if we can specify an upper bound
> (e.g. my laptop has 8GB of ram, can I use this incremental
> repacking optimally by telling git to make batches of at most
> 7.5G), the answer seems to follow...

Well, this gets us to the "unsigned long" problem and how it pervades 
the OPT_MAGNITUDE() code and things that use that kind of parameter. 
This means that Windows users can specify a maximum of (1 << 32) - 1. 
This size is intended to be large enough to make a reasonable change in 
the pack organization without rewriting the entire repo (e.g. 1GB). If 
there is another word than "repack" that means "collect objects from a 
subset of pack-files and place them into a new pack-file, doing a small 
amount of redeltification in the process" then I am open to suggestions.

I tried (briefly) to fix this dependence, but it got too large for me to 
handle at the same time as this change. I'll consider revisiting it 
again later.

>>    The batch is
>> +       selected by greedily adding small pack-files starting with
>> +       the oldest pack-files that fit the size. Create a new pack-
>> +       file containing the objects the multi-pack-index indexes
>> +       into thos pack-files, and rewrite the multi-pack-index to
> those
>
>> +       contain that pack-file. A later run of 'git multi-pack-index
>> +       expire' will delete the pack-files that were part of this
>> +       batch.
> ... but the optimization seems to be rather about getting rid
> of the oldest packs first instead of getting as close to the batch
> size. (e.g. another way to look at this is to "find the permutation
> of all packs that (each are smaller than batch size), but in sum
> are the smallest threshold above the batch size).

You are describing the subset-sum problem, with an additional 
optimization component. While there are dynamic programming approaches 
that are usually effective (if the sum is small), this problem is 
NP-complete, and hence could lead to complications.

> I guess that the strategy of picking the oldest is just easiest
> to implement and should be sufficient for now, but memory
> bounds might be interesting to keep in mind, just as the
> optimal packing from above.

It is easy to implement, and fast. Further, we do have a heuristic that 
the pack modified time correlates with the time the objects were 
introduced to the repository and hence may compress well when placed 
together.

Thanks,

-Stolee


  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-11 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-10 18:06 [PATCH 0/5] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-10 18:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] multi-pack-index: prepare for 'expire' verb Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-11  1:35   ` Stefan Beller
2018-12-11  1:59     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-12-11 12:32       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-12-10 18:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] midx: refactor permutation logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-10 18:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] multi-pack-index: implement 'expire' verb Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-10 18:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' verb Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-11  1:54   ` Stefan Beller
2018-12-11 12:45     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2018-12-10 18:06 ` [PATCH 5/5] midx: implement midx_repack() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-11  2:32   ` Stefan Beller
2018-12-11 13:00     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-12-12  7:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-13  4:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-21 16:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] repack: refactor pack deletion for future use Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] Docs: rearrange subcommands for multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] multi-pack-index: prepare for 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] midx: refactor permutation logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] multi-pack-index: implement 'expire' verb Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] midx: implement midx_repack() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-12-21 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:21   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] repack: refactor pack deletion for future use Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] Docs: rearrange subcommands for multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] multi-pack-index: prepare for 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] midx: simplify computation of pack name lengths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] midx: refactor permutation logic and pack sorting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-23 21:00       ` Jonathan Tan
2019-01-24 17:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-24 19:17           ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] multi-pack-index: implement 'expire' verb Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:54       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-10 18:05         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-23 22:13       ` Jonathan Tan
2019-01-24 17:36         ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-09 15:56       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-01-23 22:38       ` Jonathan Tan
2019-01-24 19:36         ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-24 21:38           ` Jonathan Tan
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] midx: implement midx_repack() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-23 22:33       ` Jonathan Tan
2019-01-09 15:21     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] multi-pack-index: test expire while adding packs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-17 15:27     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee
2019-01-23 22:44     ` Jonathan Tan
2019-01-24 21:51     ` [PATCH v4 00/10] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 01/10] repack: refactor pack deletion for future use Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 02/10] Docs: rearrange subcommands for multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 03/10] multi-pack-index: prepare for 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 05/10] midx: refactor permutation logic and pack sorting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 04/10] midx: simplify computation of pack name lengths Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 06/10] multi-pack-index: implement 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:51       ` [PATCH v4 07/10] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' subcommand Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-25 23:24         ` Josh Steadmon
2019-01-24 21:52       ` [PATCH v4 08/10] midx: implement midx_repack() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-26 17:10         ` Derrick Stolee
2019-01-27 22:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-24 21:52       ` [PATCH v4 09/10] multi-pack-index: test expire while adding packs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 21:52       ` [PATCH v4 10/10] midx: add test that 'expire' respects .keep files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2019-01-24 22:14       ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Jonathan Tan
2019-01-25 23:49       ` Josh Steadmon
2019-04-24 15:14       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] " Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] repack: refactor pack deletion for future use Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] Docs: rearrange subcommands for multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] multi-pack-index: prepare for 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] midx: simplify computation of pack name lengths Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] midx: refactor permutation logic and pack sorting Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] multi-pack-index: implement 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] midx: implement midx_repack() Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] multi-pack-index: test expire while adding packs Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] midx: add test that 'expire' respects .keep files Derrick Stolee
2019-04-24 15:14         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] t5319-multi-pack-index.sh: test batch size zero Derrick Stolee
2019-04-25  5:38         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25 11:06           ` Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47         ` [PATCH v6 " Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 01/11] repack: refactor pack deletion for future use Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 02/11] Docs: rearrange subcommands for multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 03/11] multi-pack-index: prepare for 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 04/11] midx: simplify computation of pack name lengths Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 05/11] midx: refactor permutation logic and pack sorting Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 06/11] multi-pack-index: implement 'expire' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 07/11] multi-pack-index: prepare 'repack' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 08/11] midx: implement midx_repack() Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 09/11] multi-pack-index: test expire while adding packs Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 10/11] midx: add test that 'expire' respects .keep files Derrick Stolee
2019-05-14 18:47           ` [PATCH v6 11/11] t5319-multi-pack-index.sh: test batch size zero Derrick Stolee
2019-06-10 14:15           ` [PATCH v6 00/11] Create 'expire' and 'repack' verbs for git-multi-pack-index Derrick Stolee
2019-06-10 17:31             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-10 17:57               ` Derrick Stolee

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