From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thomas Rast Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:25:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87zjuz84tp.fsf@hexa.v.cablecom.net> References: <20130608164902.GA3109@elie.Belkin> <20130608173447.GA4381@elie.Belkin> <20130609014049.GA10375@google.com> <20130609052624.GB561@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20130609180437.GB810@sigill.intra.peff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Jeff King , Felipe Contreras , Jonathan Nieder , Duy Nguyen , "Git Mailing List" , Junio C Hamano , Brandon Casey To: Ramkumar Ramachandra X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jun 09 21:25:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UllEs-0002Q6-39 for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:25:18 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751984Ab3FITZK (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:25:10 -0400 Received: from edge20.ethz.ch ([82.130.99.26]:41115 "EHLO edge20.ethz.ch" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751562Ab3FITZJ (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:25:09 -0400 Received: from CAS12.d.ethz.ch (172.31.38.212) by edge20.ethz.ch (82.130.99.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:24:52 +0200 Received: from hexa.v.cablecom.net.ethz.ch (46.126.8.85) by CAS12.d.ethz.ch (172.31.38.212) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:25:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Ramkumar Ramachandra's message of "Mon, 10 Jun 2013 00:02:11 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-Originating-IP: [46.126.8.85] Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Ramkumar Ramachandra writes: > Jeff King wrote: >> I actually think word choice and politeness is only a small part of it, >> and one that I live without. It is not just _how_ something is said, >> but _what_ is said. And sometimes what is said does not lead in a >> productive direction. I found Thomas's comment here: >> >> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/227053 >> >> sums up the core of many of the conflicts I've seen on the list. > > This is all very good, Jeff. Various people have expressed what's > wrong with fc's "demeanour", "tone", and "style of discussion" in > various different ways at various different points in time. This goes > on and on and on with no end in sight. WHAT do we do? > > I'll be frank: I'm a pragmatic person, and I want to see work. > Despite all this mess, who has shown me the most number of patches > with some direction? Felipe. Who gets the most number of patches > into git.git, by far? Felipe. And who is wasting time theorizing > about what's wrong with Felipe in various ways? Everyone else. At what cost? The arguments arise to a large degree from attempting to review his work. Not doing so is not an option, see e.g.: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/223279 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/225969 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/226125 And that's not even counting the part of the argument that arises purely from deliberate flaunting of the project's guidelines. -- Thomas Rast trast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch