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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Wink Saville <wink@saville.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Optional sub hierarchy for remote tags
Date: Tue, 01 May 2018 21:24:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zi1jxjqn.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180501165931.25515-1-wink@saville.com>


On Tue, May 01 2018, Wink Saville wrote:

> As discussed on the git email list [1] with the subject
> "Fetching tags overwrites existing tags" there is a bug
> where fetching tags can overwrite existing tags.
>
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmasono, has created a patch series [2]
> which requires a '--force' flag when fetching if the user
> actually wants to overwrite any existing flags.
>
> This patch series allows tags in remotes to be placed in
> a sub hierarchy, refs/remote-tags when "git remote add" is
> passed the --remote-tags option.
>
> The patch series also modifies tag so "git tag -l" will list
> tags in refs/remote-tags properly. It also test for
> "git remote add" which uses "git tag -l".

Thanks a lot for working on this, it's great to have something the
direction of getting rid of this discrepancy between the 1=1 mapping for
branches, but the 1=many mapping for tags. My recent patch series and
the pruneTags feature I added in 2.17.0 are really just hacks around not
having that.

My concern with your patches is not that they're not implementing some
mythical future where we're mapping each <remote>'s refs to
remotes/<fully qualified ref> and local refs to local/<fully qualified
ref>, which is what we should really be aiming for and would forever get
us out of this rut of 1=many and local & remote refs existing in the
same namespace, but that they might make it harder to get there.

So specifically, your 1/3 writes this to the config:

  [remote "gbenchmark"]
    url = git@github.com:google/benchmark
    fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/gbenchmark/*
    fetch = +refs/tags/*:refs/remote-tags/gbenchmark/*
    tagopt = --remote-tags

If the user clones with your patch, and then uses an older git version
on the same repo (a use case we need to support) that older version
doesn't know about --remote-tags, and will fetch them all.

As a workaround for that maybe we'll need something like:

  [remote "gbenchmark"]
    url = git@github.com:google/benchmark
    fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/gbenchmark/*
    fetch = +refs/tags/*:refs/remote-tags/gbenchmark/*
	tagStyle = remote
    tagopt = --no-tags

Or whatever, i.e. something where only the new version will fetch the
tags and ignore the tagopt option (which I never liked anyway). It's a
hack, but at least you don't end up with crap it your ref namespace by
flip-flopping between versions.

Then as I alluded to in my
https://public-inbox.org/git/20180429202100.32353-6-avarab@gmail.com/ we
have a lot of stuff that hardcodes special behaviors for
refs/{tags,heads}/, including but not limited to:

    git grep -C2 -e TAG_REFSPEC -e tag_refspec -e '"refs/tags/' -- '*.[ch]'

So maybe we need to start this series with some set of patches where we
make the currently hardcoded behavior for refs/{heads,tags}/
configurable.

Sorry about this "nice shed you built, how about you make a cathedral
instead?" E-Mail. I really don't think we should make perfect the enemy
of the good, but at the same time it would be unfortunate if we can't
get perfect because we settled for good.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-01 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24 19:57 Fetching tags overwrites existing tags Wink Saville
2018-04-24 23:48 ` Jacob Keller
2018-04-25  0:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-25  1:29   ` Jacob Keller
2018-04-25  1:31   ` Wink Saville
2018-04-26 19:39     ` Wink Saville
2018-04-26 22:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-26 23:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-27 18:50           ` [RFC PATCH v2] Teach remote add the --prefix-tags option Wink Saville
2018-04-27 19:08           ` Fetching tags overwrites existing tags Wink Saville
2018-04-27 19:13             ` Bryan Turner
2018-05-04 15:56               ` Jacob Keller
2018-04-28  7:26             ` Jacob Keller
2018-04-28 18:27           ` [RFC PATCH v3] Teach remote add the --remote-tags option Wink Saville
2018-04-28 19:00             ` Wink Saville
2018-04-28 21:27               ` Wink Saville
2018-05-01 16:59           ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Optional sub hierarchy for remote tags Wink Saville
2018-05-01 19:24             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-05-01 19:45               ` Jacob Keller
2018-05-01 20:34                 ` Wink Saville
2018-05-01 23:24                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-02  0:08                   ` Jacob Keller
2018-05-01 23:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-01 16:59           ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] Teach remote add the --remote-tags option Wink Saville
2018-05-01 18:50             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-08 10:26             ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-01 16:59           ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] Teach tag to list remote-tags Wink Saville
2018-05-01 16:59           ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] Test git remote add -f --remote-tags Wink Saville
2018-04-27 19:46 ` Fetching tags overwrites existing tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 0/8] "git fetch" should not clobber existing tags without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Prep for " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 20:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 20:37           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:09           ` [PATCH v5 0/9] git " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:09           ` [PATCH v5 1/9] fetch: change "branch" to "reference" in --force -h output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:09           ` [PATCH v5 2/9] push tests: make use of unused $1 in test description Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 21:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-31 22:02               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:09           ` [PATCH v5 3/9] push tests: use spaces in interpolated string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:09           ` [PATCH v5 4/9] fetch tests: add a test for clobbering tag behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:10           ` [PATCH v5 5/9] push doc: remove confusing mention of remote merger Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:10           ` [PATCH v5 6/9] push doc: move mention of "tag <tag>" later in the prose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:10           ` [PATCH v5 7/9] push doc: correct lies about how push refspecs work Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:10           ` [PATCH v5 8/9] fetch: document local ref updates with/without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 20:10           ` [PATCH v5 9/9] fetch: stop clobbering existing tags without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fetch: change "branch" to "reference" in --force -h output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 2/6] push tests: correct quoting in interpolated string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 21:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 3/6] fetch tests: add a test for clobbering tag behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 21:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 4/6] push doc: correct lies about how push refspecs work Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 21:31           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-30 22:34           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-31 16:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-31 16:35               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 5/6] fetch: document local ref updates with/without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 20:12         ` [PATCH v4 6/6] fetch: stop clobbering existing tags without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 21:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 1/7] fetch tests: change "Tag" test tag to "testTag" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 2/7] push tests: remove redundant 'git push' invocation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 3/7] push tests: fix logic error in "push" test assertion Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 4/7] push tests: add more testing for forced tag pushing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 5/7] push tests: assert re-pushing annotated tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 6/7] fetch tests: correct a comment "remove it" -> "remove them" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-13 19:22       ` [PATCH v3 7/7] pull doc: fix a long-standing grammar error Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 01/10] fetch tests: change "Tag" test tag to "testTag" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 02/10] push tests: remove redundant 'git push' invocation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 03/10] push tests: fix logic error in "push" test assertion Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 04/10] push tests: add more testing for forced tag pushing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 05/10] push tests: assert re-pushing annotated tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 06/10] push doc: correct lies about how push refspecs work Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 17:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-30 14:52         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-08-30 15:23           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-30 16:59             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 07/10] fetch tests: correct a comment "remove it" -> "remove them" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 08/10] fetch tests: add a test clobbering tag behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 17:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 09/10] pull doc: fix a long-standing grammar error Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 13:07     ` [PATCH v2 10/10] fetch: stop clobbering existing tags without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-31 18:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 1/8] push tests: remove redundant 'git push' invocation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 2/8] push tests: fix logic error in "push" test assertion Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 3/8] push tests: add more testing for forced tag pushing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-07 10:09     ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-08  2:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08  3:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08  9:52         ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-08 10:19     ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 4/8] push tests: assert re-pushing annotated tags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-08  4:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08 14:05     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 5/8] push doc: correct lies about how push refspecs work Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-08  5:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 6/8] fetch tests: correct a comment "remove it" -> "remove them" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-29 20:20   ` [PATCH 7/8] fetch tests: add a test clobbering tag behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-29 20:21   ` [PATCH 8/8] fetch: stop clobbering existing tags without --force Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-08  5:37     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-01 17:11 ` Fetching tags overwrites existing tags Wink Saville

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