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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, dstolee@microsoft.com,
	git@jeffhostetler.com, peff@peff.net, johannes.schindelin@gmx.de,
	jrnieder@gmail.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/20] abbrev: support relative abbrev values
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:36:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhzxvmyv.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqa7ry5n9h.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>


On Wed, Jun 13 2018, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> E.g. here's a breakdown of my dotfiles repo:
>>
>>     $ git -c core.abbrev=4 log  --pretty=format:%h|perl -nE 'chomp;say length'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr
>>         784 4
>>          59 5
>>           7 6
>>
>> I don't have a single commit that needs 7 characters, yet that's our
>> default. This is a sane trade-off for the kernel, but for something
>> that's just a toy or something you're playing around with something
>> shorter can make sense.
>>
>> SHA-1s aren't just written down, but also e.g. remembered in wetware
>> short-term memory.
>
> That's a fine example of what I called "supporting absurdly small
> absolute values like 4"; I still do not see why you want "negative
> relative values" from that example.

Because hardcoding -2 is very different than setting it to 5, because
the -2 will scale to the size of the repository, but 5 is just 7-2 where
7 is our default value.

So, in general if you want less future proof hashes by some
probabilistic metric (whether you use core.validateAbbrev or not) you'd
use -2 or -3, just like you might use +2 or +3 if you'd like to have
more future-proof hashes (especially with core.validateAbbrev=true).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-14  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08 22:41 [PATCH 00/20] unconditional O(1) SHA-1 abbreviation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 01/20] t/README: clarify the description of test_line_count Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 02/20] test library: add a test_byte_count Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 03/20] blame doc: explicitly note how --abbrev=40 gives 39 chars Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-12 18:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 04/20] abbrev tests: add tests for core.abbrev and --abbrev Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-12 18:31   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 05/20] abbrev tests: test "git-blame" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 06/20] blame: fix a bug, core.abbrev should work like --abbrev Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 07/20] abbrev tests: test "git branch" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 08/20] abbrev tests: test for "git-describe" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 09/20] abbrev tests: test for "git-log" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09  8:43   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-09  9:56     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 13:56       ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 10/20] abbrev tests: test for "git-diff" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 11/20] abbrev tests: test for plumbing behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 12/20] abbrev tests: test for --abbrev and core.abbrev=[+-]N Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 13/20] parse-options-cb.c: convert uses of 40 to GIT_SHA1_HEXSZ Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 14/20] config.c: use braces on multiple conditional arms Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 15/20] parse-options-cb.c: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 16/20] abbrev: unify the handling of non-numeric values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 17/20] abbrev: unify the handling of empty values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 14:24   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-09 14:31     ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 18/20] abbrev parsing: use braces on multiple conditional arms Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 19/20] abbrev: support relative abbrev values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 15:38   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-12 19:16   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-13 22:22     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-13 22:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-14  7:36         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-06-14 15:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-14 19:07             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 20/20] abbrev: add a core.validateAbbrev setting Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 15:47   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-12 18:58     ` Junio C Hamano

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