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From: Thomas Rast <tr@thomasrast.ch>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GSoC 2014: Summary so far, discussion starter: how to improve?
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:14:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txg4qwiq.fsf@linux-k42r.v.cablecom.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqli1lro08.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:31:35 -0700")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Thomas Rast <tr@thomasrast.ch> writes:
>
>> Theories
>> ========
>>
>> * Scope creep: projects tend to get blocked on some bigger
>>   refactoring/restructuring task that was not in the original
>>   proposal.

(Full disclosure: I actually proposed this theory.)

> I think that is a sign that the original proposal did not look
> enough at the existing code, dreaming of a pie-in-the-sky shiny
> features in a green-field setting. What needs to be done within the
> constraint of the existing code (including a total rewrite, if
> necessary, while keeping the project's codebase maintainable is part
> of the healthy develpment.

Hmm, yes, but it's also the only objection that I believe I have never
heard, as opposed to ignored.

I'm okay if we just file this under "things to consider during project
proposal review".

>> * Have students review some patches
>
> I am not sure if this would help.
>
> Reviewing the patches to find style violations and off-by-one errors
> is relatively easy as it can be done with knowledge on a narrow
> isolated part of the system. Reviewing the design to make sure that
> the change fits the way how existing subsystems work, ranging from
> the internal API implementation level to consistency a changed
> behaviour is presented at the UI level, however, needs understanding
> of the far wider entire project than only the parts of the system
> the proposed change updates. It will be even more true if the chosen
> topic is a cool/shiny one.

I'd choose the middle path: review for code readability.  What do the
functions do?  Are the functions and variables named after their roles?
Is there anything that I cannot understand, and therefore warrants a
comment?

That is much more difficult than just reviewing for style, while it can
(usually) be done without too much knowledge of the outside.

-- 
Thomas Rast
tr@thomasrast.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-26  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-19  6:09 GSoC 2014: Summary so far, discussion starter: how to improve? Thomas Rast
2013-10-19 10:41 ` Christian Couder
2013-10-19 12:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-19 21:51 ` Fredrik Gustafsson
2013-10-26  8:21   ` Thomas Rast
2013-10-20 10:00 ` Thomas Gummerer
2013-10-22 21:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-26  8:14   ` Thomas Rast [this message]
2013-11-21  8:36 ` Thomas Rast
2013-11-21  9:43   ` Christian Couder
2013-11-21 10:04   ` Jeff King

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