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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Roberto Tyley <roberto.tyley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] point pull requesters to Git Git Gadget
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:25:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8bzes75.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190318211215.GB29661@sigill.intra.peff.net>


On Mon, Mar 18 2019, Jeff King wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:52:54AM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>>
>> > Hmm. I guess it is still an issue in GGG. This thread has identical
>> > timestamps on patches 1 and 2 (and my server received them out of order
>> > by 2 seconds, so mutt orders them wrong):
>> >
>> >   https://public-inbox.org/git/pull.163.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/
>> >
>> > I do still think GGG has a more feasible path forward on this particular
>> > bug, though.
>>
>> If the MSA is rewriting the timestamp (but why?  Is the original
>> date "Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:20:12 GMT" malformed or perhaps in the
>> future or something?), then there isn't much the sending program
>> can---'git send-email' would suffer from the same symptom.
>
> I think this statement from me is mid-way through my discovery of the
> actual issue. Yes, if the mail server is rewriting, the best we can do
> is put in an artificial sleep.
>
> It looks like GitGitGadget just uses normal SMTP to submit the messages.
> I wonder if normal people using gmail as their SMTP server for
> send-email also suffer from this. I've not ever noticed it, but I
> don't know how common that setup is.

It's the got-to setup for those of us using gmail & send-email. In
git-ml.git:

    $ git ls-files | wc -l
    371333
    $ git grep -l '^\s+by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ' | wc -l
    35326

Roughly 1/2 of those are patches:

    $ git grep --no-line-number -h -C30 '^\s+by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ' |grep "^Subject: \[" | wc -l
    14567

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-18 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-12 21:32 [RFC/PATCH] point pull requesters to Git Git Gadget Jeff King
2019-03-12 23:08 ` Roberto Tyley
2019-03-13 19:34   ` Jeff King
2019-03-13 20:50   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-13  1:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-13 19:39   ` Jeff King
2019-03-13 20:18     ` Jeff King
2019-03-14 11:31       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-15  3:19         ` Jeff King
2019-03-15 13:42           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-15 18:43             ` Jeff King
2019-03-18  2:52       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-18 21:12         ` Jeff King
2019-03-18 21:48           ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-03-18 21:52             ` Jeff King
2019-03-19  0:30               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-18 22:25           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2019-03-13 21:05     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-13 22:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-13  2:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-13  2:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-03-13 19:39     ` Jeff King
2019-03-14 12:04 ` GitGitGadget on github.com/git/git?, was " Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-14 14:46   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-03-15  3:30   ` Jeff King
2019-03-15 14:51     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-03-15 16:28       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-03-15 18:41         ` Jeff King

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