From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thomas Rast Subject: Re: GSoC 2014: Summary so far, discussion starter: how to improve? Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:21:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87fvrophm7.fsf@linux-k42r.v.cablecom.net> References: <8761stx04i.fsf@linux-k42r.v.cablecom.net> <20131019215139.GX13967@paksenarrion.iveqy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Ben Straub , Carlos =?utf-8?Q?Ma?= =?utf-8?Q?rt=C3=ADn?= Nieto , Christian Couder , David Michael Barr , Edward Thomson , Florian Achleitner , Jakub Narebski , Jeff King , Jens Lehmann , Martin Woodward , Matthieu Moy , Michael Haggerty , Michael Schubert , Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy , Pat Thoyts , Paul Mackerras , Philip Kelley , Ramkumar Ramachandra , Ramsay Jones , Russell Belfer , Scott Chacon , Shawn Pearce To: Fredrik Gustafsson X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Oct 26 10:22:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VZz8d-00066Z-Ns for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:22:28 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751750Ab3JZIV6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Oct 2013 04:21:58 -0400 Received: from psi.thgersdorf.net ([176.9.98.78]:50311 "EHLO mail.psioc.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751553Ab3JZIVz (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Oct 2013 04:21:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.psioc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07B64D6514; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:21:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at psioc.net Received: from mail.psioc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.psioc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lBCQsiilgZXz; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from linux-k42r.v.cablecom.net.thomasrast.ch (unknown [213.55.184.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.psioc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A88594D6414; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:21:38 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20131019215139.GX13967@paksenarrion.iveqy.com> (Fredrik Gustafsson's message of "Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:51:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Fredrik Gustafsson writes: >> >> * Break projects into smaller, easier tasks >> - They should individually be simple, quick things if the mentor did >> them. >> - Should be parallelizable so students don't have to block on reviews. > > I'd 5-6 smaller projects setup for the summer, I think I managed to do > 2-3 of them. (I did however do everything I applied for). I really think > it's an excellent idea. This also meant that while one patch waited for > review, I'd other things to work on. Lots of kudo points for Jens and Heiko :-) >> * Mentoring improvements: >> - Always have a co-mentor >> - Focus on social aspects (who to Cc, etc.) >> - Nominate separate "review mentors" to ensure fast review cycles > > I like the idea of review mentors. However bear in mind that you'll > already have three people reviewing the patches (two mentors and Junio). > We will not make it look like it's impossible to get things into > git.git. I think the idea was not that you'd get *more* reviews, but that there would be a group of volunteers doing reviews to ensure that they arrive fast. Students should have feedback within 1-2 days of the series being posted. The other advantages are that it provides a set of fresh eyes, and takes load off Junio. I'm not even sure how official we have to make this. In Thomas Gummerer's case, Michael stepped up with reviews when I couldn't. So maybe it'll again "just work out". But I would like to take this role, and leave the "social" mentoring to others. -- Thomas Rast tr@thomasrast.ch