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From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Kaartic Sivaraam <kaartic.sivaraam@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: jk/branch-l-0-deprecation (was Re: What's cooking in git.git (May 2018, #02; Thu, 17))
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 11:48:33 +0200
Message-ID: <87fu2qbojy.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e440f6e0-6d7d-0e72-b875-de290cea6b94@gmail.com>


On Thu, May 17 2018, Kaartic Sivaraam wrote:

> On Thursday 17 May 2018 11:31 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> * jk/branch-l-0-deprecation (2018-03-26) 3 commits
>>
>> ...
>>
>>  The "-l" option in "git branch -l" is an unfortunate short-hand for
>>  "--create-reflog", but many users, both old and new, somehow expect
>>  it to be something else, perhaps "--list".  This step deprecates
>>  the short-hand and warns about the future removal of the it when it
>>  is used.
>>
>>  Will cook in 'next'.
>>  Perhaps merge to 'master' immediately after 2.18 release?
>
> I still have a slight feeling that we shouldn't list the branches for
> "git branch -l" during the deprecation period. If feel this because
>
> 	i) It would avoid confusions for the users during the
> 	   deprecation period
>
> 	ii) The warning message seems to add to the confusion:
>
> 	    $ git branch -l
> 	    warning: the '-l' alias for '--create-reflog' is deprecated;
> 	    warning: it will be removed in a future version of Git
> 	    * master
> 	    ...
>
>
> 	    If there are ample branches, the warning message might be
> 	    hidden out of screen but we shouldn't rely on that, I
> 	    suppose.

Also if we have lots of branches, depending on your pager settings you
won't see this at all, I have:

    PAGER=less LESS="--IGNORE-CASE --LONG-PROMPT --QUIET --chop-long-lines --RAW-CONTROL-CHARS --no-init --quit-if-one-screen"

I've ended up with that $LESS setting via hackery over the years, so
maybe I'm doing something retarded, minimal test case:

    PAGER=less  LESS="--no-init --quit-if-one-screen" git branch -l

So with those two options I don't get the stderr output at all, but if I
remove either one of those options once I quit the pager I get the
output at the end.

So I think this is probably OK for most users, if the have very few
branches they'll see it, and then if they use default pager settings
they'll see the stderr output once they quit the pager. I don't know how
common my (mis)configuration is.

  reply index

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-17  6:01 What's cooking in git.git (May 2018, #02; Thu, 17) Junio C Hamano
2018-05-17  6:39 ` jk/branch-l-0-deprecation (was Re: What's cooking in git.git (May 2018, #02; Thu, 17)) Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-17  9:48   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-05-17 11:00     ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-17 12:02       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-17 13:36     ` Jeff King
2018-05-24 15:10       ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-24 19:22         ` Jeff King
2018-05-24 19:31           ` [PATCH] branch: issue "-l" deprecation warning after pager starts Jeff King
2018-05-25  1:55             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25  2:40               ` Jeff King
2018-05-25  8:56                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25  9:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25 17:10                     ` Jeff King
2018-05-26  2:37                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25 21:00                     ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] usage: prefix all lines in `vreportf()`, not just the first Martin Ågren
2018-05-25 21:00                       ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] usage: extract `prefix_suffix_lines()` from `advise()` Martin Ågren
2018-05-28  8:27                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-28 18:40                         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-29 21:33                           ` Jeff King
2018-05-29 21:39                         ` Jeff King
2018-05-30  1:42                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-30  6:00                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-30 10:26                               ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-31  6:07                                 ` Jeff King
2018-05-25 21:00                       ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] usage: prefix all lines in `vreportf()`, not just the first Martin Ågren
2018-05-28  9:25                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-28 18:45                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-28 21:45                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-29  4:49                               ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-29  5:50                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-29 10:30                                   ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-29 12:08                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-29 15:50                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-30 10:19                                   ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-29 21:32                           ` Jeff King
2018-05-30 10:20                             ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-25 21:00                       ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] usage: translate the "error: "-prefix and others Martin Ågren
2018-05-26  2:32                   ` [PATCH] branch: issue "-l" deprecation warning after pager starts Junio C Hamano
2018-05-26  2:33                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-29 21:20                     ` Jeff King
2018-05-29 21:21                       ` Jeff King
2018-05-30  2:48                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31  5:44                           ` Jeff King
2018-05-26 19:39                 ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-06-02  4:46                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-06-02  8:10                   ` Jeff King
2018-05-26 18:45             ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-05-29 21:15               ` Jeff King
2018-05-30  2:52                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31  5:51                   ` Jeff King
2018-06-01  1:35                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31  5:52                   ` Kaartic.Sivaraam
2018-05-17 13:22 ` What's cooking in git.git (May 2018, #02; Thu, 17) Derrick Stolee
2018-05-17 18:20 ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 18:29   ` [PATCH 0/2] Reroll 2 last commits of sb/object-store-replace Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 18:29     ` [PATCH 1/2] object.c: free replace map in raw_object_store_clear Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 18:29     ` [PATCH 2/2] replace-object.c: remove the_repository from prepare_replace_object Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 18:40   ` [PATCH] merge-recursive: give notice when submodule commit gets fast-forwarded Stefan Beller
2018-05-18 19:43     ` [PATCH v2 0/1] rebased: inform about auto submodule ff Leif Middelschulte
2018-05-18 19:48     ` [PATCH v3 " Leif Middelschulte
2018-05-18 19:48       ` [PATCH 1/1] Inform about fast-forwarding of submodules during merge Leif Middelschulte
2018-05-18 21:25         ` Elijah Newren
2018-05-21  4:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-17 19:46   ` [PATCH 0/8] Reroll of sb/diff-color-move-more Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 1/8] xdiff/xdiff.h: remove unused flags Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 2/8] xdiff/xdiffi.c: remove unneeded function declarations Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 3/8] diff.c: do not pass diff options as keydata to hashmap Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 4/8] diff.c: adjust hash function signature to match hashmap expectation Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 5/8] diff.c: add a blocks mode for moved code detection Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 6/8] diff.c: decouple white space treatment from move detection algorithm Stefan Beller
2018-05-18  4:00       ` Simon Ruderich
2018-05-18 19:25         ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 7/8] diff.c: add --color-moved-ignore-space-delta option Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 19:46     ` [PATCH 8/8] diff: color-moved white space handling options imply color-moved Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 22:53     ` [PATCH 0/8] Reroll of sb/diff-color-move-more Jonathan Tan
2018-06-07 23:54     ` Jacob Keller
2018-05-17 22:36   ` What's cooking in git.git (May 2018, #02; Thu, 17) Junio C Hamano
2018-05-17 22:39     ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-17 22:56     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-17 22:58       ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-21  1:57 ` brian m. carlson
2018-05-21 17:36   ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-25 12:28 ` sb/submodule-move-nested breaks t7411 under GIT_FSMONITOR_TEST Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25 17:27   ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-25 19:49   ` Stefan Beller
2018-09-06 12:31     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-06 16:57       ` Stefan Beller
2018-09-06 19:03         ` Ben Peart
2018-09-06 20:14           ` Stefan Beller
2018-09-06 20:34             ` [PATCH] git-mv: allow submodules and fsmonitor to work together Stefan Beller
2018-09-10 15:58               ` Ben Peart
2018-09-10 16:29                 ` [PATCH v1] " Ben Peart
2018-09-10 17:07                   ` Stefan Beller
2018-09-10 19:38                     ` Ben Peart

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