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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Matthieu Moy" <git@matthieu-moy.fr>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Đoàn Trần Công Danh" <congdanhqx@gmail.com>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Schwab" <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 11/11] test-lib: split up and deprecate test_create_repo()
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 14:05:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeeasumj.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <609ce1fd6b614_5a8208e3@natae.notmuch>


On Thu, May 13 2021, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, May 13 2021, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> 
>> > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> >> --- a/t/test-lib-functions.sh
>> >> +++ b/t/test-lib-functions.sh
>> >> @@ -1243,21 +1243,10 @@ test_atexit () {
>> >>  		} && (exit \"\$eval_ret\"); eval_ret=\$?; $test_atexit_cleanup"
>> >>  }
>> >>  
>> >> -# Most tests can use the created repository, but some may need to create more.
>> >> +# Deprecated wrapper for "git init", use "git init" directly instead
>> >>  # Usage: test_create_repo <directory>
>> >>  test_create_repo () {
>> >
>> > If this is deprecated why not add a warning?
>> >
>> >   echo "warning: test_create_repo is deprecated in favor of git init" >&2
>> 
>> Because like test_i18ncmp, test_i18ngrep or whatever this is in the
>> state of "don't use this for new code", but annoying everyone who runs
>> the test suite with loads of this output under -v would be too
>> distracting.
>> 
>> The attention of the developer community is much better spent on one
>> person doing a s/test_create_repo/git init/ patch than having everyone
>> see this warning until somebody does that.
>
> Then it's not really deprecated; it's merely disfavored.
>
> To deprecate means to express disapproval of. If we are not going to
> express disapproval (i.e. annoy the users of the test suite), then it's
> not really deprecated. You can't eat your cake and have it too.
>
> I agree we shouldn't throw a warning right now, but at some point in the
> future we should, *then* it will be deprecated.

I don't feel strongly about either term, as long as it's consistent.

I do think that "deprecated" is consistent in the way I'm using it
within the git project. If you grep various things we've "deprecated" we
usually just do so by noting so in the docs. In this case the docs are
the comments in test-lib.sh.

We do also have things like git rebase --preserve-merges which emit a
warning, but we use "deprecated" for both. By contrast we don't have a
single git for "git grep -i disfavor".

Anyway, for now I'd prefer to just have this land as-is and sort out
such minor things later, given the v6 and having two other topics
waiting on this...

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 175+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-12 11:08 [PATCH 00/16] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 01/16] check-non-portable-shell: complain about "test" a/-o instead of &&/|| Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 17:00   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-12 17:13     ` Matthieu Moy
2021-04-12 18:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 18:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 18:48       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 02/16] test-lib: bring $remove_trash out of retirement Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 19:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 03/16] test-lib tests: remove dead GIT_TEST_FRAMEWORK_SELFTEST variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 04/16] test-lib-functions: reword "test_commit --append" docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 05/16] test-lib-functions: document test_commit --no-tag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 17:07   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 06/16] test-lib functions: add an --annotated-tag option to "test_commit" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-15 15:33   ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 07/16] describe tests: convert setup to use test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 08/16] test-lib functions: add --printf option to test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 19:05   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-12 21:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 23:04       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-12 23:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-15 11:33           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-15 14:52             ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-15 18:37               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 09/16] submodule tests: use symbolic-ref --short to discover branch name Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] test-lib: reformat argument list in test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:09 ` [PATCH 11/16] test-lib: do not show advice about init.defaultBranch under --verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-15 19:07   ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-12 11:09 ` [PATCH 12/16] test-lib: modernize test_create_repo() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 19:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-15 11:40     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-15 21:10   ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-16 21:22     ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-16 23:38     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:09 ` [PATCH 13/16] test-lib-functions: normalize test_path_is_missing() debugging Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:09 ` [PATCH 14/16] test-lib-functions: use "return 1" instead of "false" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 19:31   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 11:09 ` [PATCH 15/16] Revert and amend "test-lib-functions: assert correct parameter count" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 19:37   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-15 11:32     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-15 12:31       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-04-15 18:35       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 21:06         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-15 22:05   ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-15 22:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 23:48     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 11:09 ` [PATCH 16/16] test-lib-functions: remove last two parameter count assertions Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-12 19:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 18:18 ` [PATCH 00/16] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Junio C Hamano
2021-04-17 12:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 01/12] check-non-portable-shell: check for "test <cond> -a/-o <cond>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 02/12] test-lib: bring $remove_trash out of retirement Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 03/12] test-lib tests: remove dead GIT_TEST_FRAMEWORK_SELFTEST variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 04/12] test-lib-functions: reword "test_commit --append" docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 05/12] test-lib-functions: document test_commit --no-tag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 06/12] test-lib functions: add an --annotated option to "test_commit" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 07/12] describe tests: convert setup to use test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 08/12] test-lib functions: add --printf option to test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 09/12] submodule tests: use symbolic-ref --short to discover branch name Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 10/12] test-lib: reformat argument list in test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 11/12] test-lib: do not show advice about init.defaultBranch under --verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:52   ` [PATCH v2 12/12] test-lib: split up and deprecate test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 15:42     ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-17 21:45       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 21:27         ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-17 12:58   ` [PATCH 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: trickery to make -x less verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:58     ` [PATCH 1/3] test-lib-functions: normalize test_path_is_missing() debugging Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:58     ` [PATCH 2/3] Revert and amend "test-lib-functions: assert correct parameter count" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-18  5:11       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-20 12:25         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17 12:58     ` [PATCH 3/3] test-lib-functions: remove last two parameter count assertions Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21   ` [PATCH v3 00/12] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 01/12] check-non-portable-shell: check for "test <cond> -a/-o <cond>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 22:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-21  8:46         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:39           ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-21 10:41             ` [PATCH 1/2] t6400: check exit status of ls-files Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-21 10:41               ` [PATCH 2/2] t6402: " Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-21 16:55                 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-21 17:32                   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-21 23:32                     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-22 13:49                       ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-22 15:04                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-22 15:30                           ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-22 15:07                         ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-22 12:45                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 14:18             ` [PATCH v3 01/12] check-non-portable-shell: check for "test <cond> -a/-o <cond>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 16:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-21 18:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 02/12] test-lib: bring $remove_trash out of retirement Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 22:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 03/12] test-lib tests: remove dead GIT_TEST_FRAMEWORK_SELFTEST variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 04/12] test-lib-functions: reword "test_commit --append" docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 05/12] test-lib-functions: document test_commit --no-tag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 06/12] test-lib functions: add an --annotated option to "test_commit" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 07/12] describe tests: convert setup to use test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:21     ` [PATCH v3 08/12] test-lib functions: add --printf option to test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:22     ` [PATCH v3 09/12] submodule tests: use symbolic-ref --short to discover branch name Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:22     ` [PATCH v3 10/12] test-lib: reformat argument list in test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:22     ` [PATCH v3 11/12] test-lib: do not show advice about init.defaultBranch under --verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:22     ` [PATCH v3 12/12] test-lib: split up and deprecate test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15     ` [PATCH v4 00/11] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] test-lib: bring $remove_trash out of retirement Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] test-lib tests: remove dead GIT_TEST_FRAMEWORK_SELFTEST variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] test-lib-functions: reword "test_commit --append" docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] test-lib-functions: document test_commit --no-tag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] test-lib functions: add an --annotated option to "test_commit" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] describe tests: convert setup to use test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] test-lib functions: add --printf option to test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] submodule tests: use symbolic-ref --short to discover branch name Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] test-lib: reformat argument list in test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] test-lib: do not show advice about init.defaultBranch under --verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 10:15       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] test-lib: split up and deprecate test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 16:43         ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-04-22 12:39           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] test-lib: bring $remove_trash out of retirement Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-06 15:46           ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] test-lib tests: remove dead GIT_TEST_FRAMEWORK_SELFTEST variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] test-lib-functions: reword "test_commit --append" docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] test-lib-functions: document test_commit --no-tag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] test-lib functions: add an --annotated option to "test_commit" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] describe tests: convert setup to use test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-06 15:58           ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] test-lib functions: add --printf option to test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-06 16:08           ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] submodule tests: use symbolic-ref --short to discover branch name Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] test-lib: reformat argument list in test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] test-lib: do not show advice about init.defaultBranch under --verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:21         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] test-lib: split up and deprecate test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  7:23         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Junio C Hamano
2021-05-06 15:32         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-06 16:21           ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-10 14:18         ` [PATCH v6 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 01/11] test-lib: bring $remove_trash out of retirement Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 02/11] test-lib tests: remove dead GIT_TEST_FRAMEWORK_SELFTEST variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 03/11] test-lib-functions: reword "test_commit --append" docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 04/11] test-lib-functions: document test_commit --no-tag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 05/11] test-lib functions: add an --annotated option to "test_commit" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 06/11] describe tests: convert setup to use test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 07/11] test-lib functions: add --printf option to test_commit Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 08/11] submodule tests: use symbolic-ref --short to discover branch name Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 09/11] test-lib: reformat argument list in test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 10/11] test-lib: do not show advice about init.defaultBranch under --verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-10 14:19           ` [PATCH v6 11/11] test-lib: split up and deprecate test_create_repo() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-13  6:45             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13  7:45               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-13  8:23                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13 12:05                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-05-13 20:11                     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 12:19           ` [PATCH v6 00/11] test-lib.sh: new test_commit args, simplification & fixes Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-12 23:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 12:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: trickery to make -x less verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:29   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] test-lib-functions: normalize test_path_is_missing() debugging Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:29   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Revert and amend "test-lib-functions: assert correct parameter count" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 15:07     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-21  8:22       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 12:29   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] test-lib-functions: remove last two parameter count assertions Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 21:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-21 14:58   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] test-lib-functions.sh: trickery to make -x less verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 14:58     ` [PATCH v2 1/5] test-lib-functions: normalize test_path_is_missing() debugging Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 14:58     ` [PATCH v2 2/5] Revert and amend "test-lib-functions: assert correct parameter count" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 14:58     ` [PATCH v2 3/5] test helpers: remove unused test-tool path-utils slice-tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 18:02       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 14:58     ` [PATCH v2 4/5] test-helpers: rename "path-utils is_valid_path" to "is-valid-paths" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-21 14:58     ` [PATCH v2 5/5] test-helpers: split "file-size" into "file-size(s)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:29     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] test-lib-functions.sh: trickery to make -x less verbose Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:29       ` [PATCH v3 1/4] test-lib-functions: normalize test_path_is_missing() debugging Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  3:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-23  7:29       ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Revert and amend "test-lib-functions: assert correct parameter count" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29  3:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-29  4:02         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-04-23  7:29       ` [PATCH v3 3/4] test-helpers: rename "path-utils is_valid_path" to "is-valid-paths" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23  7:29       ` [PATCH v3 4/4] test-helpers: split "file-size" into "file-size(s)" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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		git@vger.kernel.org
	public-inbox-index git

Example config snippet for mirrors.
Newsgroups are available over NNTP:
	nntp://news.public-inbox.org/inbox.comp.version-control.git
	nntp://7fh6tueqddpjyxjmgtdiueylzoqt6pt7hec3pukyptlmohoowvhde4yd.onion/inbox.comp.version-control.git
	nntp://ie5yzdi7fg72h7s4sdcztq5evakq23rdt33mfyfcddc5u3ndnw24ogqd.onion/inbox.comp.version-control.git
	nntp://4uok3hntl7oi7b4uf4rtfwefqeexfzil2w6kgk2jn5z2f764irre7byd.onion/inbox.comp.version-control.git
	nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.version-control.git
 note: .onion URLs require Tor: https://www.torproject.org/

code repositories for project(s) associated with this inbox:

	https://80x24.org/mirrors/git.git

AGPL code for this site: git clone https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox.git