From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>,
Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: use the sha1collisiondetection submodule by default
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 15:16:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7yxs1iu.fsf@evledraar.booking.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh8t5jp9e.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>
On Tue, Dec 05 2017, Junio C. Hamano jotted:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> I'm not sure how I feel about this. I see your point that there's no
>>> real value in maintaining two systems indefinitely. At the same time, I
>>> wonder how much value the submodule strategy is actually bringing us.
>>>
>>> IOW, are we agreed that the path forward is to get everybody using the
>>> submodule?
>> ...
>> In no particular order:
>>
>> * I don't feel strongly about 2-4/4 in this series. I just hacked this
>> up because it occurred to me that I'd left this sha1dc stuff in some
>> in-between state and we'd talked about eventually moving forward with
>> this.
>
> Good.
>
>> We've had two releases with the submodule being purely optional, if
>> we're going to keep it it seems logical to start at least using it by
>> default.
>
> With a need for a patch like 1/4, I suspect two release cycles is
> way too short for making a move like 2-4/4, though.
You're conflating two unrelated things, which to be fair I'm confusingly
doing by submitting all this together.
1) Since 2.14 we've had the "auto" rule and
DC_SHA1_SUBMODULE=[YesPlease|auto], so we'll prefer the submodule if
it's there. So we've been testing if the mere presence of a
.gitmodules breaks something for someone, seems like it doesn't.
2) Then in the 2.15 release Takashi Iwai submitted a feature to link to
an external SHA1DC. This is used in the SuSE 2.15 package here:
http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/src-oss/suse/src/
However, as you'll see if you extract that package they don't run
into that bug, because they're building it from a tarball which has
an empty sha1collisiondetection/ directory as noted in my
87bmjdscdr.fsf@evledraar.booking.com.
Takashi *would* run into an error with my 1/4 if he was building from
git.git, or if "make dist" included sha1collisiondetection/, but I
don't see a reason to hold anything back back on that account. The
only users of DC_SHA1_EXTERNAL=YesPlease are going to be packagers
who know what they're doing, and if we start erroring out for them on
this obscure option that's going to be trivially solved.
I don't see why this obscure edge case with #2 should keep us from
deciding whatever we'd decide with #1. They're really unrelated, #2
practically speaking only impacts tarball consumers, #1 impacts git.git
users.
It seems logical to me if we're going to move forward with #1 at all by
first making the submodule the default & then depending on how that
turns out making it a hard dependency, we'd do it now.
We'll learn nothing new by shipping a 2.16 with DC_SHA1_SUBMODULE=auto
that we haven't already learned in 2.14 & 2.15.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-05 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-28 21:32 [PATCH 0/4] SHA1DC fixes & fully moving to a git.git submodule Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-11-28 21:32 ` [PATCH 1/4] Makefile: don't error out under DC_SHA1_EXTERNAL if DC_SHA1_SUBMODULE=auto Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 6:53 ` Jeff King
2017-11-28 21:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] sha1dc_git.h: re-arrange an ifdef chain for a subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 6:55 ` Jeff King
2017-11-28 21:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: use the sha1collisiondetection submodule by default Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 7:02 ` Jeff King
2017-12-05 10:22 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 13:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-05 14:16 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2017-12-09 12:30 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-12-09 12:53 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-12-05 16:32 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20171128213214.12477-5-avarab@gmail.com>
2017-12-05 7:10 ` [PATCH 4/4] sha1dc: remove in favor of using sha1collisiondetection as a submodule Jeff King
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] SHA1DC fixes & fully moving to a git.git submodule Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-09 13:08 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] Makefile: don't error out under DC_SHA1_EXTERNAL if DC_SHA1_SUBMODULE=auto Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] Makefile: under "make dist", include the sha1collisiondetection submodule Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-08 23:15 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-19 19:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] sha1dc_git.h: re-arrange an ifdef chain for a subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] Makefile: use the sha1collisiondetection submodule by default Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-08 23:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-09 0:31 ` Jeff King
2017-12-08 23:30 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
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