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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Carlo Arenas <carenas@gmail.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] parse-options: stop supporting "" in the usagestr array
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:21:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878s015mtg.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpmtdjuqj.fsf@gitster.g>


On Sun, Sep 12 2021, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> diff --git a/t/t0040-parse-options.sh b/t/t0040-parse-options.sh
>> index ad4746d899a..2910874ece5 100755
>> --- a/t/t0040-parse-options.sh
>> +++ b/t/t0040-parse-options.sh
>> @@ -10,8 +10,6 @@ test_description='our own option parser'
>>  cat >expect <<\EOF
>>  usage: test-tool parse-options <options>
>>  
>> -    A helper function for the parse-options API.
>> -
>>      --yes                 get a boolean
>>      -D, --no-doubt        begins with 'no-'
>>      -B, --no-fear         be brave
>
> Isn't this, and a lot more importantly the next one ...
>
>> diff --git a/t/t1502-rev-parse-parseopt.sh b/t/t1502-rev-parse-parseopt.sh
>> index b29563fc997..6badc650d64 100755
>> --- a/t/t1502-rev-parse-parseopt.sh
>> +++ b/t/t1502-rev-parse-parseopt.sh
>> @@ -6,8 +6,6 @@ test_description='test git rev-parse --parseopt'
>>  test_expect_success 'setup optionspec' '
>>  	sed -e "s/^|//" >optionspec <<\EOF
>>  |some-command [options] <args>...
>> -|
>> -|some-command does foo and bar!
>>  |--
>>  |h,help    show the help
>>  |
>
> ... coalmine canaries that tell us that end-user's scripts using the
> "git rev-parse --parseopt" in the documented way will be broken?
>
> I'd rather not have to sorry about breaking end-user scripts this
> way.  Unlike a very small number of in-tree parse_options() call in
> C programs, we have unbounded of them.

I re-rolled this in v4 to not change how the function works at all:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/cover-v4-0.4-00000000000-20210912T235347Z-avarab@gmail.com/

I do think we're going above & beyond what's reasonable in maintaining
these interfaces, i.e. per 21d47835386 (Add a parseopt mode to
git-rev-parse to bring parse-options to shell scripts., 2007-11-04) I
don't think anyone thought that interface would be used outside of
git.git.

But then perhaps I'm wrong, or it has been, and since we ended up
sticking it in rev-parse which was marked as plumbing we can't change
how it or the underlying C APIs it relies on work.

In practice I doubt it would break things for anyone, but per the result
of the discussion to "remove dead shell code" [1] I don't think I'll get
anywhere with that.

I do think that getting some answer to [2] & how we think about the
likes of "git rev-parse --parseopt" going forward would be very
useful.

I.e. would you be OK with us marking these as deprecated / warn on their
out-of-tree use? If so we could after some time remove a lot of code &
simplify things once the last in-tree shellscript user goes away.

Or if we don't see that they can ever be changed that's also useful to
know (and per [2] I think I'd feel obligated to send in a revert
bringing git-parse-remote back).

1. https://lore.kernel.org/git/cover-v3-0.4-00000000000-20210911T111435Z-avarab@gmail.com/
2. https://lore.kernel.org/git/87tuiwjfvi.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-13  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-01 11:12 [PATCH 0/2] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 11:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] built-ins: "properly" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 11:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] parse-options: properly " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10  7:51   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-09-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output & related Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] test-lib.sh: add a UNIX_SOCKETS prerequisite Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] git.c: add a NEED_UNIX_SOCKETS option for built-ins Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  0:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  2:50       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  3:47         ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2021-09-11  6:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  7:16           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] parse-options: stop supporting "" in the usagestr array Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  0:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  2:46       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  6:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] built-ins: "properly" align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  0:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  2:40       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  7:41   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output & related Eric Sunshine
2021-09-11 19:08   ` [PATCH v3 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] credential-cache{,--daemon}: don't build under NO_UNIX_SOCKETS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-12 21:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] blame: replace usage end blurb with better option spec Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-12  4:45       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-09-12 22:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] parse-options: stop supporting "" in the usagestr array Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-12 22:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-13  0:21         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] built-ins: "properly" align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] parse-options API users: align usage output in C-strings Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] git rev-parse --parseopt tests: add more usagestr tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  6:41         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-21 13:30       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] parse-options API users: align usage output in C-strings Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] git rev-parse --parseopt tests: add more usagestr tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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