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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
Cc: "Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] read-cache: fix incorrect count and progress bar stalling
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:49:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735tt4fhx.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eaf2b6b0-4202-d5ea-87a2-b828fdbc60a1@web.de>


On Mon, Jun 07 2021, René Scharfe wrote:

> Am 07.06.21 um 17:58 schrieb Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 07 2021, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/2021 10:43 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>>> Fix a potential incorrect display of the number of items (off by one)
>>>> and stalling of the progress bar in refresh_index().
>>>>
>>>> The off-by-one error is minor, we should say we're processing the 1st
>>>> item, not the 0th. This along with the next change also allows us to
>>>> remove the last display_progress() call outside the loop, as we'll
>>>> always have reached 100% now.
>>>
>>> This "pre-announce the progress" seems correct and is unlikely
>>> to have a user sitting at "100%" while the loop is actually doing
>>> work on that last cache entry.
>>
>> I guess pre-announce v.s. post-announce is a matter of some philosophy,
>> for O(n) when can we be said to be doing work on n[0]? We entered the
>> for-loop and are doing work on that istate->cache[i] item, so I'd like
>> to think of it more as post-announce :)
>
> Say you have a single item to process and it takes a minute.  The
> original code shows 0% for a minute, then 100% at the end.  With your
> change you'd get 100% for a minute.  Both would be annoying, but the
> latter would have me raging.  "If you're done", I'd yell at the uncaring
> machine, "what are you still doing!?".

Perhaps if we said "100% and Reticulating splines[...]" :)

> Showing only the completed items makes sense.  That the next one is
> being processed is self-understood.  Once all of them are done, 100% is
> shown and the progress line is finished.
>
> So I think this pattern works:
>
> 	for (i = 0; i < nr; i++) {
> 		display_progress(p, i);
> 		/* work work work */
> 	}
> 	display_progress(p, nr);
>
> Alternatively, if the work part doesn't contain continue statements:
>
> 	for (i = 0; i < nr; i++) {
> 		/* work work work */
> 		display_progress(p, i + 1);
> 	}

But yes, I agree with the issue in theory, but I think in practice we
don't need to worry about these 100% cases.

We usually only display this anyway with a really big O(n), or (if we
correctly use the API) one where each item isn't that expensive, we just
do a lot of work in the aggregate.

So having a display_progress() at the top of the for-loop with "i + 1"
avoids needing two of them, or worrying about "continue" statements etc,
or (as in this case) where the data we're processing can be 10k items
with the first 8k being items we skip, so we'd be seen to hang, or
"jump" from 10% to 50%, then smoothly update 50%..60%, and jump again
etc.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-07 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-07 14:43 [PATCH 0/2] trivial progress.c API usage fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-07 14:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] read-cache.c: don't guard calls to progress.c API Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-07 15:28   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-07 15:52     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-07 16:11       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-07 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] read-cache: fix incorrect count and progress bar stalling Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-07 15:31   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-07 15:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-07 19:20       ` René Scharfe
2021-06-07 19:49         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-06-07 23:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-08 10:58             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-08 16:14               ` René Scharfe
2021-06-08 22:12                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-10  5:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-10 15:14                     ` René Scharfe
2021-06-10 15:14                   ` René Scharfe
2021-06-14 11:07                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-14 17:18                       ` René Scharfe
2021-06-14 19:08                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-15  2:32                           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-15 15:14                           ` René Scharfe
2021-06-15 16:46                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-20 12:53                               ` René Scharfe

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