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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, dstolee@microsoft.com,
	git@jeffhostetler.com, peff@peff.net, johannes.schindelin@gmx.de,
	jrnieder@gmail.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/20] abbrev: support relative abbrev values
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:22:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sdawcmh.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqvaan95os.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>


On Tue, Jun 12 2018, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Change the core.abbrev config variable and the corresponding --abbrev
>> command-line option to support relative values such as +1 or -1.
>>
>> Before Linus's e6c587c733 ("abbrev: auto size the default
>> abbreviation", 2016-09-30) git would default to abbreviating object
>> names to 7-hexdigits, and only picking longer SHA-1s as needed if that
>> was ambiguous.
>>
>> That change instead set the default length as a function of the
>> estimated current count of objects:
>>
>>     Based on the expectation that we would see collision in a
>>     repository with 2^(2N) objects when using object names shortened
>>     to first N bits, use sufficient number of hexdigits to cover the
>>     number of objects in the repository.  Each hexdigit (4-bits) we
>>     add to the shortened name allows us to have four times (2-bits) as
>>     many objects in the repository.
>>
>> By supporting relative values for core.abbrev we can allow users to
>> consistently opt-in for either a higher or lower probability of
>> collision, without needing to hardcode a given numeric value like
>> "10", which would be overkill on some repositories, and far to small
>> on others.
>
> Nicely explained and calculated ;-)
>
>>  test_expect_success 'describe core.abbrev=[-+]1 and --abbrev=[-+]1' '
>> -	test_must_fail git -c core.abbrev=+1 describe | sed_g_tr_d_n >describe &&
>> -	test_must_fail git -c core.abbrev=-1 describe | sed_g_tr_d_n >describe &&
>> +	git -c core.abbrev=-1 describe | sed_g_tr_d_n >describe &&
>> +	test_byte_count = 6 describe &&
>> +
>> +	git -c core.abbrev=+1 describe | sed_g_tr_d_n >describe &&
>> +	test_byte_count = 8 describe &&
>
> Even though I see the point of supporting absurdly small absolute
> values like 4, I do not quite see the point of supporting negative
> relative values here.  What's the expected use case?

I'll add a better explanation for this to the commit message.

Initially I did this for consistency, since it was easy to implement,
and there's no reason to have that arbitrary limitation, but thinking
about it again I think I'll use this for some of my projects.

E.g. here's a breakdown of my dotfiles repo:

    $ git -c core.abbrev=4 log  --pretty=format:%h|perl -nE 'chomp;say length'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr
        784 4
         59 5
          7 6

I don't have a single commit that needs 7 characters, yet that's our
default. This is a sane trade-off for the kernel, but for something
that's just a toy or something you're playing around with something
shorter can make sense.

SHA-1s aren't just written down, but also e.g. remembered in wetware
short-term memory.

>>  	git log --abbrev=+1 --pretty=format:%h -1 | tr_d_n >log &&
>> -	test_byte_count = 4 log &&
>> +	test_byte_count = 8 log &&
>
> This, together with many many others in the rest of the patch, is
> cute but confusing in that the diff shows change from 4 to 8 due to
> the redefinition of what abbrev=+1 means.  I have a feeling that it
> may not be worth doing it "right", but if we were doing it "right",
> we would probably have done it in multiple steps:
>
>     - the earlier patches in this series that demonstrates
>       --abbrev=+1 is --abbrev=1 and core.abbrev=+1 is an error.
>
>     - ensure --abbrev=+1 is rejected as syntax error just like
>       core.abbrev=+1 was, without introducing relative values
>
>     - introduce relative value.
>
> That way, the last step (which corresponds to this patch) would show
> change from "log --abbrev=+1" failing due to syntax error to showing
> abbreviated value that is slightly longer than the default.
>
> But a I said, it may not be worth doing so.  "Is it worth supporting
> negative relative length?" still stands, though.

I'll see what I can do about this value churn.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08 22:41 [PATCH 00/20] unconditional O(1) SHA-1 abbreviation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 01/20] t/README: clarify the description of test_line_count Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 02/20] test library: add a test_byte_count Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 03/20] blame doc: explicitly note how --abbrev=40 gives 39 chars Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-12 18:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 04/20] abbrev tests: add tests for core.abbrev and --abbrev Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-12 18:31   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 05/20] abbrev tests: test "git-blame" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 06/20] blame: fix a bug, core.abbrev should work like --abbrev Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 07/20] abbrev tests: test "git branch" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 08/20] abbrev tests: test for "git-describe" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 09/20] abbrev tests: test for "git-log" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09  8:43   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-09  9:56     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 13:56       ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 10/20] abbrev tests: test for "git-diff" behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 11/20] abbrev tests: test for plumbing behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 12/20] abbrev tests: test for --abbrev and core.abbrev=[+-]N Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 13/20] parse-options-cb.c: convert uses of 40 to GIT_SHA1_HEXSZ Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 14/20] config.c: use braces on multiple conditional arms Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 15/20] parse-options-cb.c: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 16/20] abbrev: unify the handling of non-numeric values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 17/20] abbrev: unify the handling of empty values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 14:24   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-09 14:31     ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 18/20] abbrev parsing: use braces on multiple conditional arms Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 19/20] abbrev: support relative abbrev values Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 15:38   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-12 19:16   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-13 22:22     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-06-13 22:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-14  7:36         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-14 15:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-14 19:07             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 22:41 ` [PATCH 20/20] abbrev: add a core.validateAbbrev setting Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-09 15:47   ` Martin Ågren
2018-06-12 18:58     ` Junio C Hamano

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