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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Adam Roben" <aroben@apple.com>,
	"Bryan Larsen" <bryan.larsen@gmail.com>,
	"Matthias Urlichs" <smurf@smurf.noris.de>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] hash-object doc: elaborate on -w and --literally promises
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:04:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86woigp3ro.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190522050839.GB29933@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 22 May 2019 01:08:39 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:53:11PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
>> Clarify the hash-object docs to explicitly note that the --literally
>> option guarantees that a loose object will be written, but that a
>> normal -w ("write") invocation doesn't.
>
> I had to double-check here: you mean that _when_ we are writing an
> object, "--literally" would always write loose, right?
>
>> At first I thought talking about "loose object" in the docs was a
>> mistake in 83115ac4a8 ("git-hash-object.txt: document --literally
>> option", 2015-05-04), but as is clear from 5ba9a93b39 ("hash-object:
>> add --literally option", 2014-09-11) this was intended all along.
>
> Hmm. After reading both of those, I do think it's mostly an
> implementation detail. I would not be at all surprised to find that the
> test suite relies on this (e.g., cleaning up with rm
> .git/objects/ab/cd1234). But I suspect we also rely on that for the
> non-literal case, too. ;)
>
> So I am on the fence. In some sense it doesn't hurt to document the
> behavior, but I'm not sure I would want to lock us in to any particular
> behavior, even for --literally. The intent of the option (as I recall)
> really is just "let us write whatever trash we want as an object,
> ignoring all quality checks".

I thik that this implemetation detail of `--literally` is here to stay;
how would you otherwise fix the issue if garbage object makes Git crash?

However, I would prefer to have options state _intent_; if there is
legitimate need for a tool that creates loose objects, it would be
better to have separate `--loose` option to `git hash-object` (which
would imply `-w`, otherwise it doesn't have sense).

>>  --literally::
>> -	Allow `--stdin` to hash any garbage into a loose object which might not
>> +	Allow for hashing arbitrary data which might not
>>  	otherwise pass standard object parsing or git-fsck checks. Useful for
>>  	stress-testing Git itself or reproducing characteristics of corrupt or
>> -	bogus objects encountered in the wild.
>> +	bogus objects encountered in the wild. When writing objects guarantees
>> +	that the written object will be a loose object, for ease of debugging.
>
> I had to read this last sentence a few times to parse it. Maybe a comma
> before guarantees would help? Or even:
>
>   When writing objects, this option guarantees that the written object
>   will be a loose object, for ease of debugging.

I agree that this reads better.

Regards,
--
Jakub Narębski

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-24 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-20 21:53 [PATCH 0/3] hash-object doc: small fixes Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-20 21:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] hash-object doc: stop mentioning git-cvsimport Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-22  4:57   ` Jeff King
2019-05-20 21:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] hash-object doc: elaborate on -w and --literally promises Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-22  5:08   ` Jeff King
2019-05-24 10:04     ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2019-05-24 10:12       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-28  6:06         ` Jeff King
2019-05-28 16:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-28 16:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-20 21:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] hash-object doc: point to ls-files and rev-parse Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-22  5:15   ` Jeff King

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