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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Supplant the "while case ... break ;; esac" idiom
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:10:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fy14taqr.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.64.0709241502330.28395@racer.site

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Miles Bader wrote:
>
>> Eygene Ryabinkin <rea-git@codelabs.ru> writes:
>> >> The comment "... holds only for a shell where [ is a builtin" doesn't
>> >> make any sense to me
>> >
>> > The 'while case ...' construct does not invoke any external commands.
>> > The 'while test ...' too, but only when 'test' is builtin.  When
>> > 'test' is the external binary you get one additional fork/exec per
>> > each cycle.
>> 
>> In practice that's not an issue though -- every reasonable shell has 
>> test as a builtin these days, so the "works when test is not a builtin" 
>> criteria is really important only for robustness.
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!
>
> _Exactly_ the same reasoning can be said about the old code: _every_ 
> reasonable shell can grok the code that used to be there!

There are no known shells that would not grok the proposed code, and
the BSD shells don't grok the "code that used to be there".

So what point is there in preserving compatibility with some mystical
non-specified shell while breaking compatibility with actually
existing shells?

And by using a less human-readable idiom, to boot?

-- 
David Kastrup

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-24 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-21 21:43 [PATCH] Allow shell scripts to run with non-Bash /bin/sh Eygene Ryabinkin
2007-09-21 23:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-22  0:05   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22  0:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-22  0:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-22  0:26       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22  3:54   ` Eygene Ryabinkin
2007-09-22  4:06     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22  6:58       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-22  7:34         ` Vineet Kumar
2007-09-22 11:07         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22  6:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-22 21:37       ` Adam Flott
2007-09-22  8:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-23  8:31       ` Eygene Ryabinkin
2007-09-23  8:59       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 19:20         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-23 19:33           ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 20:42             ` [PATCH] Supplant the "while case ... break ;; esac" idiom David Kastrup
2007-09-23 22:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-24  6:22                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 14:24                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 23:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-25  6:13                       ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25  6:29                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-25 10:33                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-25 10:46                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-24  6:05               ` Mike Hommey
2007-09-24  6:26                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24  6:30                   ` David Symonds
2007-09-24  7:57                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24  8:01                       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-09-24  8:04                         ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-09-24 10:33                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-24 11:21                             ` Miles Bader
2007-09-24 11:35                               ` Eygene Ryabinkin
2007-09-24 13:45                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-09-24 13:58                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 14:04                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-24 14:10                                     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-09-24 14:58                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-09-24 16:24                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-24 11:39                             ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24  8:29                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22  2:33 ` [PATCH] Allow shell scripts to run with non-Bash /bin/sh Junio C Hamano

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