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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christer Weinigel <christer@weinigel.se>,
	Tom Tobin <korpios@korpios.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: On Tabs and Spaces
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:25:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85zlyhc51q.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710171438551.26902@woody.linux-foundation.org> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Wed\, 17 Oct 2007 15\:03\:55 -0700 \(PDT\)")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> Maybe it's a character flaw. I'll respect people who do something
> interesting, but re-implementing CVS (and badly, at that)

I seem to remember somebody who started out reimplementing Unix, and
badly, at that.  With the help of many other people, this thing
finally became portable to more than i386 and more than AT drives.
Took quite a long time.  The ancient floppy disk code still has the
renown of being one of the worst pieces of drivers all around.

If you find this silly, so do I.  That's the point.

> or talking about syntactic changes to other peoples projects is not
> going to fill me with respect.
>
> In short, I'll give respect when somebody is shown to be *worth*
> that respect. But respect really has to be earned, not just
> "assumed", otherwise it's pointless.

Cooperation is easier if one is of the opinion rather that disrespect
has to be earned: otherwise you alienate potential contributors before
they even had a chance to contribute.

This difference in approach is one of the things I can't help admiring
in Junio.  And I don't think it is to the detriment of git.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-18  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-16  6:45 On Tabs and Spaces Michael Witten
2007-10-16  7:04 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16  7:27   ` Michael Witten
2007-10-16 17:20     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 17:40       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-16 23:09         ` Petr Baudis
2007-10-17  3:41           ` David
2007-10-17 11:32             ` Andy Parkins
2007-10-16  8:30 ` Adam Piatyszek
2007-10-16  9:04   ` Lars Hjemli
2007-10-16 10:16     ` Adam Piatyszek
2007-10-16 15:26       ` Jeffrey C. Ollie
2007-10-16 15:51         ` Michael Witten
2007-10-16 17:06           ` Jari Aalto
2007-10-16 19:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-16 19:36               ` Mike Hommey
2007-10-16 19:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-16 19:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-16 20:32                   ` Matthieu Moy
2007-10-16 20:18               ` Tom Tobin
2007-10-16 23:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-16 23:51                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-10-17  0:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17  3:08                       ` Michael Witten
2007-10-17  3:29                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17  7:17                       ` Luke Lu
2007-10-17  9:09                         ` Michael Witten
2007-10-17 10:03                           ` Luke Lu
2007-10-17 10:21                           ` Nikolai Weibull
2007-10-17 11:23                             ` Michael Witten
2007-10-17 22:02                           ` Jari Aalto
2007-10-17 22:36                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-17 23:38                               ` Jari Aalto
2007-10-18  4:31                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-10-18  8:19                                   ` Jari Aalto
2007-10-18 11:34                                     ` Petr Baudis
2007-10-18 11:39                                       ` Nikolai Weibull
2007-10-22  3:39                                         ` Miles Bader
2007-10-18  7:15                               ` David Kågedal
2007-10-18  5:42                             ` Mike Hommey
2007-10-18 10:36                               ` Jari Aalto
2007-10-17 15:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 18:05                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-17 18:25                           ` Tom Tobin
2007-10-17 18:54                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 19:33                               ` Tom Tobin
2007-10-17 19:44                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 19:48                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-17 19:52                                 ` Josh England
2007-10-17 19:53                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 21:21                                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-10-17 22:03                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  6:25                                       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-10-17 22:11                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-17 23:17                                       ` Christer Weinigel
2007-10-17 23:44                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-18  0:31                                           ` Christer Weinigel
2007-10-18  6:02                                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-18  7:12                                             ` David Kågedal
2007-10-17 23:53                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-17 20:31                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-17 21:08                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-17 19:47                               ` Jan Wielemaker
2007-10-18  0:32                           ` Jeff King
2007-10-18  0:59                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  2:45                               ` Jeff King
2007-10-18  3:03                                 ` david
2007-10-18  3:00                                   ` Jeff King
2007-10-18  3:32                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  4:17                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  3:13                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  3:23                                   ` Jeff King
2007-10-18  4:41                                     ` [PATCH] Add a message explaining that automatic GC is about to start koreth
2007-10-18  4:44                                       ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-18  5:01                                       ` Jeff King
2007-10-18  5:11                                         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-18 13:52                                       ` Brian Gernhardt
2007-10-18 14:16                                         ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-18 18:08                                           ` Jeff King
2007-10-19  0:16                                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-19  1:12                                             ` [PATCH] git-gc: improve wording of --auto notification Jeff King
2007-10-19  1:24                                               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-19  1:26                                                 ` Jeff King
2007-10-18 14:21                                         ` [PATCH] Add a message explaining that automatic GC is about to start Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-18  4:52                                 ` On Tabs and Spaces Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-18  4:54                                   ` Jeff King
2007-10-18  4:55                                     ` Jeff King
2007-10-17 16:08                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-17 17:44                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-17 19:52                             ` David Kastrup
2007-10-17 17:51                           ` Sean
2007-10-17  5:56                   ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 20:56               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-18  3:31               ` Paul Wankadia
2007-10-18  4:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18  4:36               ` Dmitry Potapov
2007-10-16 17:23         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16 18:34           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-10-16 18:51             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-20 13:54 ` Robin Rosenberg

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