From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Kastrup Subject: Re: [RFC] Convert builin-mailinfo.c to use The Better String Library. Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:40:00 +0200 Message-ID: <85k5r27wkv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <46DDC500.5000606@etek.chalmers.se> <1189004090.20311.12.camel@hinata.boston.redhat.com> <4AFD7EAD1AAC4E54A416BA3F6E6A9E52@ntdev.corp.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: Walter Bright X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Sep 07 09:40:15 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITYRp-0000k9-I1 for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:40:13 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964934AbXIGHkI (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Sep 2007 03:40:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964931AbXIGHkI (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Sep 2007 03:40:08 -0400 Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.44]:40459 "EHLO mail-in-04.arcor-online.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964927AbXIGHkG (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Sep 2007 03:40:06 -0400 Received: from mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DFB17F5B9; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:40:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457A42DA967; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:40:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lola.goethe.zz (dslb-084-061-044-151.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.44.151]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298D3292B61; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A7B141CAD71B; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:40:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Walter Bright's message of "Thu\, 06 Sep 2007 22\:09\:26 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4176/Fri Sep 7 08:46:21 2007 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Walter Bright writes: > Linus Torvalds wrote: >> And if you want a fancier language, C++ is absolutely the worst one >> to choose. If you want real high-level, pick one that has true >> high-level features like garbage collection or a good system >> integration, rather than something that lacks both the sparseness >> and straightforwardness of C, *and* doesn't even have the high-level >> bindings to important concepts. >> >> IOW, C++ is in that inconvenient spot where it doesn't help make >> things simple enough to be truly usable for prototyping or simple >> GUI programming, and yet isn't the lean system programming language >> that C is that actively encourags you to use simple and direct >> constructs. > > The D programming language is a different take than C++ has on growing > C. I'm curious what your thoughts on that are (D has garbage > collection, while still retaining the ability to directly manage > memory). Can you enumerate what you feel are the important concepts? A design is perfect not when there is no longer anything you can add to it, but if there is no longer anything you can take away. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum