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From: "Ben Lynn" <benlynn@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Daniel Barkalow" <barkalow@iabervon.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: git bugs
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:31:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <832adb090806101931y754fa6b7nfcb58a9c34f0c582@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0806101909430.3101@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Ah, I hadn't seen that. Yes, it is better to use the first write as
the timestamp. Would this catch everything? If the filesystem clock is
monotonically increasing and consistent then with this setup, you can
touch files even as they are being indexed? (Disregarding nonsense
like changing sizes by 2^32.)

Just realized I should have paid more attention to Junio's first reply
to me. My eye had skipped over the paragraph about clock skew, and
this caused some confusion. Sorry about all my extra emails!

-Ben

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Ben Lynn wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, but if we're assuming no one is touching the files while we're
>> updating the index (including writing it to disk), why does it matter
>> whether we use the time of first or last write? In fact, if a index
>> write takes a long time, using the last write time as the mtime would
>> be beneficial for the race condition stuff.
>
> Oh, if you assume nobody is touching the files as the index is created,
> none of this matters.
>
> So if *that* was your only race worry, then git should already be
> perfectly fine.
>
> The issue with the timestamp of the index only happens if somebody ends up
> modifying the files that are being indexed _as_ they are indexed. Quite
> frankly, git will notice that too in just about all possible cases, but if
> the size stays the same and the modification time ends up still being
> smaller than the final index mtime (because writing the index took so
> long!), then you might miss some modifications that would otherwise be
> noticed.
>
>                Linus
>

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-11  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-10  8:41 git bugs Ben Lynn
2008-06-10 16:58 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-06-10 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-10 18:45   ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-10 20:06     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-10 23:09       ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-10 23:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-11  0:02           ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11  0:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-11  0:24               ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11  0:53                 ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11 12:46                 ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-06-12  6:51                   ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11  1:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11  2:04               ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11  2:12                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11  2:31                   ` Ben Lynn [this message]
2008-06-11  2:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11  5:58                       ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11  6:18                         ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11 14:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11 17:52                             ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11 18:10                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11 18:48                                 ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11 18:53                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11 20:57                                     ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-11 21:50                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-11 14:52                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-12 20:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-13 10:10   ` Jeff King
2008-06-13 23:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-14  6:25       ` Jeff King
2008-06-12  3:17 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-06-12  6:46   ` Ben Lynn
2008-06-12  7:12   ` Johannes Schindelin
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2017-02-23 20:27 Sean Hunt
2017-02-24 16:52 ` Johannes Schindelin

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