From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alex Riesen" Subject: Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:48:42 +0200 Message-ID: <81b0412b0704190548x5a26395elc0f42abd17c48100@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070417173007.GV2229@spearce.org> <462521C7.2050103@softax.com.pl> <200704172239.20124.andyparkins@gmail.com> <1176983993.30690.13.camel@cauchy.softax.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Andy Parkins" , git@vger.kernel.org, "Marcin Kasperski" To: "Marcin Kasperski" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Apr 19 14:48:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HeW47-00071c-Nx for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:48:48 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1031229AbXDSMso (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:48:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1031239AbXDSMso (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:48:44 -0400 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.243]:52701 "EHLO an-out-0708.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1031229AbXDSMsn (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:48:43 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so472382ana for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DJEbJ3g24FONgrTY/k5UWbr9ifq5QOrj2xKaG6fucG+pubXcRP2AuL22ZjkoeqKX/qjxICauXEXJfY+cnEwpupxNDFmzyegxJxRJpumSuSl+f4/M7XAiR3YD03zZ7ExiNuWa4sd+POR5F6Om7ig8BUGCT8k0U7LYYM5qslmgpFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oY40GsdttjCU3B+vtto+FrWLxU4HOIWghYluC1mSdLWJSl5MuGhwwQzqF8a8QBttSIpLeut4zWhoLzj9c4x6O349+mxJl0m4fGRI9Cnn5uLv9WCuUeglWyJy2JcMdpYtNElDydoauQ8rk3wxaAwwyEKEhu0R2hGVp6dd67J/e+I= Received: by 10.100.201.11 with SMTP id y11mr850240anf.1176986922197; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.225.3 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1176983993.30690.13.camel@cauchy.softax.local> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 4/19/07, Marcin Kasperski wrote: > > Let me retype it: I am not complaining. GIT developers are not forced to > think about win users, or about corporate needs. But if they are, it is > reasonable to know the problems. > Windows (and, by extension, most corporate) users are used to both: complain and suffer. What they cannot imagine is _doing_ something. It just does not fit in their heads. A user feels the need to restrict access to some trees in a git repository? He'll start looking, asking, and maybe even raving about the missing feature on some official channel. What never occurs to him is just implementing it. And he'll be outraged if you suggest it (and, yes, it was tried. The person felt insulted and is sulking till this day) Besides, it looks like we need them: the stupid, lazy and numerous windows users. I sometimes ask myself what for did I try to explain merging and distributed workflow to my peers? The most reasonable answer so far: so they don't bother me with their stupid work flow. Don't like it though: people don't like to be called stupid (or anything they do), and I happen to like most of them anyway. And I start coding workarounds (the recent is git-remote, why the hell must it be coded in perl?)