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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] remote-curl: let users turn off smart http
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:36:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vzk4ka6dp.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120920181231.GA19204@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:12:31 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:53:15AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>> 
>> > I added the config item as remote.foo.smarthttp. You could also allow
>> > "http.$url.smart" (and just "http.smart", for that matter), which could
>> > be more flexible if you have multiple remotes pointing to the same
>> > broken server.
>> 
>> What would the user experience be when we introduce "even smarter"
>> http server protocol extension?  Will we add remote.foo.starterhttp?
>
> I would hope that it would actually be negotiated reliably at the
> protocol level so we do not have to deal with this mess again.

The original dumb vs smart was supposed to be "negotiated reliably
at the protocol level", no?  Yet we need this band-aid, so...

>> Perhaps
>> 
>>     remote.$name.httpvariants = [smart] [dumb]
>> 
>> to allow users to say "smart only", "dumb only", or "smart and/or
>> dumb" might be more code but less burden on the users.
>
> I don't mind that format if we are going that direction, but is there
> anybody who actually wants to say "smart only?"

With 703e6e7 reverted, we take a failure from the initial smart
request to mean the server is simply not serving, so "smart only" to
fail quickly without trying dumb fallback is not needed.  "smart
only" to say "I wouldn't want to talk to dumb-only server---I do not
have infinite amount of time, and I'd rather try another server" is
still a possibility, but likely not worth supporting.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-20 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-20  2:55 [PATCH] Disable dumb HTTP fallback with GIT_CURL_FALLBACK=0 Shawn O. Pearce
2012-09-20  3:22 ` Shawn Pearce
2012-09-20  3:52   ` Jeff King
2012-09-20  3:48 ` Jeff King
2012-09-20  5:57   ` Shawn Pearce
2012-09-20  5:58     ` [PATCH] Revert "retry request without query when info/refs?query fails" Shawn O. Pearce
2012-09-20  6:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-20  6:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-20 16:24         ` Jeff King
2012-09-20 16:59           ` [PATCH 0/2] smart http toggle switch fails" Jeff King
2012-09-20 17:00             ` [PATCH 1/2] remote-curl: rename is_http variable Jeff King
2012-09-20 17:05             ` [PATCH 2/2] remote-curl: let users turn off smart http Jeff King
2012-09-20 17:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-20 18:12                 ` Jeff King
2012-09-20 18:36                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-09-20 20:51                     ` Jeff King
2012-09-20 21:15                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-20 21:30                         ` Jeff King
2012-09-21 17:34                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-09-21 17:41                             ` Jeff King
2012-09-20 17:24     ` [PATCH] Disable dumb HTTP fallback with GIT_CURL_FALLBACK=0 Jeff King
2012-09-20 23:05       ` Shawn Pearce
2012-09-21  5:26         ` Jeff King
2012-09-21 14:19           ` Shawn Pearce
2012-10-01 21:23             ` [PATCH] Retry HTTP requests on SSL connect failures Shawn O. Pearce
2012-10-01 21:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-01 21:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-01 22:23                 ` Jeff King
2012-10-01 23:20                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-01 22:18               ` Jeff King
2012-10-02  2:38                 ` Shawn Pearce
2012-10-02 13:57                   ` Drew Northup
2012-10-02  0:14               ` Drew Northup
2012-09-20  4:14 ` Re* [PATCH] Disable dumb HTTP fallback with GIT_CURL_FALLBACK=0 Junio C Hamano
2012-09-20  4:14   ` [PATCH 1/2] Disable dumb HTTP fallback with GIT_DUMB_HTTP_FALLBACK=false Junio C Hamano
2012-09-20  4:14   ` [PATCH 2/2] remote-curl: make dumb-http fallback configurable per URL Junio C Hamano

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