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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:19:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vy59biih4.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E0605E.9020902@kdbg.org> (Johannes Sixt's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2013 22:00:30 +0200")

Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org> writes:

> We have three independent options that the user can choose in any
> combination:
>
>  o --force given or not;
>
>  o --lockref semantics enabled or not;
>
>  o refspec with or without +;
>
> and these two orthogonal preconditions of the push
>
>  o push is fast-forward or it is not ("ff", "noff");
>
>  o the branch at the remote is at the expected rev or it is not
>    ("match", "mismatch").
>
> Here is a table with the expected outcome. "ok" means that the push is
> allowed(*), "fail" means that the push is denied. (Four more lines with
> --force are omitted because they have "ok" in all spots.)
>
>                        ff   noff     ff      noff
>                       match match mismatch mismatch
>
> --lockref +refspec     ok    ok    denied   denied
> --lockref  refspec     ok  denied  denied   denied

I am confused with these.  The latter is the most typical:

	git fetch
        git checkout topic
        git rebase topic
	git push --lockref topic

where we know it is "noff" already, and we just want to make sure
that nobody mucked with our remote while we are rebasing.

If nobody updated the remote, why should this push be denied?  And in
order to make it succeed, you need to force with +refspec or --force,
but that would bypass match/mismatch safety, which makes the whole
"make sure the other end is unchanged" safety meaningless, no?

>           +refspec     ok    ok      ok       ok

This is traditional --force.

>            refspec     ok  denied    ok     denied

We are not asking for --lockref, so match/mismatch does not affect
the outcome.

> Notice that without --lockref semantics enabled, +refspec and refspec
> keep the current behavior.

But I do not think the above table with --lockref makes much sense.

Let's look at noff/match case.  That is the only interesting one.

This should fail:

	git push topic

due to no-ff.

Your table above makes this fail:

        git push --lockref topic

and the user has to force it, like this?

	git push --lockref --force topic ;# or alternatively
        git push --lockref +topic

Why is it even necessary?

If you make

	git push --lockref topic

succeed in noff/match case, everything makes more sense to me.

The --lockref option is merely a weaker form of --force but still a
way to override the noff check.  If the user wants to keep noff
check, the user can simply choose not to use the option.

Of course, that form should fail if "mismatch".  And then you can
force it,

	git push --force [--lockref] topic

As "--force" is "anything goes", it does not matter if you give the
other option on the command line.

> (*) As we are talking only about the client-side of the push here, I'm
> saying "allowed" instead of "succeeds" because the server can have
> additional restrictions that can make the push fail.

Yes, you and I have known from the beginning that we are in
agreement on that, but it is a good idea to explicitly say so for
the sake of bystanders.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-12 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-02 20:57 [RFD] Making "git push [--force/--delete]" safer? Junio C Hamano
2013-07-02 22:55 ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  6:34   ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  8:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 10:00       ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:06         ` Jonathan del Strother
2013-07-03 10:11           ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:50             ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-03 12:06               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-03 19:53                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-04  5:37                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-04  5:46                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 20:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53 ` [PATCH 0/7] safer "push --force" with compare-and-swap Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 1/7] cache.h: move remote/connect API out of it Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 2/7] builtin/push.c: use OPT_BOOL, not OPT_BOOLEAN Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 3/7] push: beginning of compare-and-swap "force/delete safety" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 4/7] remote.c: add command line option parser for --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-16 22:13     ` John Keeping
2013-07-17 17:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-17 17:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 5/7] push --lockref: implement logic to populate old_sha1_expect[] Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 6/7] t5533: test "push --lockref" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:17     ` Aaron Schrab
2013-07-09 20:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:24     ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 20:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:55         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 22:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 23:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 21:10               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-11 21:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 22:14                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 17:21                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 17:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 20:00                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 21:19                         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-07-13  6:52                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-13 18:14                             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 20:08                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 21:11                                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 14:28                                 ` John Keeping
2013-07-13 20:17                               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 19:17                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-14 20:21                                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 20:34                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:49                                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:59                                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 21:28                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15  4:10                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15  4:44                                             ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15 15:37                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:30                                         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-15  3:50                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 15:47                                       ` Default expectation of --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:27                                       ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 21:37         ` Marc Branchaud
2013-07-09 20:27     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-09 20:42       ` Junio C Hamano

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