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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Sven Strickroth <sven.strickroth@tu-clausthal.de>,
	Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: extend and use Git->prompt method for querying users
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:38:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vpqf8z8a6.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v39c41keo.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:00:31 -0800")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> I actually was hoping that the answer is "it depends on the helper
> specified by *_ASKPASS".
>
> In any case, let's not add that extra "Certificate unknown. " prefix at
> all to avoid regressions and queue this patch series for real.
>
> After somebody comes up with a way to deal with overlong prompt, building
> on top of this series, we can work on making this particular prompt longer
> and more descriptive.

I've queued the two patches with minor tweaks.

I think the first patch is a definite improvement for both GUI users and
terminal users who use the *_ASKPASS environment variable. Other parts of
git already asks the latter their password using *_ASKPASS anyway, so I do
not foresee complaints from them saying that git-svn suddenly stopped
reading the password from the terminal.

I am however not sure if the second patch in this series is a good thing
in the current shape. For GUI users who do not have a terminal, earlier
they couldn't respond to these questions but now they can, so in that
narrow sense we are not going backwards.

But for people who use *_ASKPASS and are working from the terminal, it is
a regression to ask these non-password questions using *_ASKPASS. Most
likely, these helpers that are designed for password entry will hide what
is typed, and I also wouldn't be surprised if some of them have fairly low
input-length restriction that may be shorter than a long-ish pathname that
users might want to give as an answer, which they could do in the terminal
based interaction but will become impossible with this patch.

I suspect that we would need to enhance *_ASKPASS interface first, so that
we can ask things other than passwords. Until that happens, I do not think
we should apply the second patch to use *_ASKPASS for non-passwords.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-28 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-17 15:15 [PATCH] honour GIT_ASKPASS for querying username in git-svn Sven Strickroth
2011-11-18 11:36 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2011-11-18 13:30   ` Sven Strickroth
2011-11-18 14:19     ` Erik Faye-Lund
2011-11-26 11:33       ` Sven Strickroth
2011-11-30  6:44         ` Jeff King
2011-12-26 23:49           ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 14:33             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-12-27 14:39               ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 16:00                 ` Jakub Narebski
2011-12-27 16:01                 ` [PATCH 0/5] honour *_ASKPASS for querying user " Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 16:05                   ` [PATCH 1/5] add central method for prompting a user using GIT_ASKPASS or SSH_ASKPASS Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 20:47                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-27 23:12                       ` Thomas Adam
2011-12-27 23:35                         ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-27 16:06                   ` [PATCH 2/5] switch to central prompt method Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 20:47                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-27 16:07                   ` [PATCH 3/5] honour *_ASKPASS for querying username and for querying further actions like unknown certificates Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 20:56                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-27 16:07                   ` [PATCH 4/5] ignore empty *_ASKPASS variables Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 21:00                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-27 16:07                   ` [PATCH 5/5] make askpass_prompt a global prompt method for asking users Sven Strickroth
2011-12-27 21:10                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-27 21:41                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-28  0:11                         ` [PATCH 1/2] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: add central method for prompting passwords honoring GIT_ASKPASS and SSH_ASKPASS Sven Strickroth
2011-12-28  2:34                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-28 16:17                             ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-28 18:56                             ` Jakub Narebski
2012-01-03 10:17                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-03 10:25                             ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-03 12:03                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-03 12:06                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-01-03 13:18                                 ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-03 19:42                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-03 22:51                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-03 23:27                               ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-04  0:10                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-04  7:55                                   ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-04  8:31                                     ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-04 13:34                                       ` Jeff King
2012-01-04 14:13                                         ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-04 19:08                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-07  4:27                                         ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-04 18:58                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-04 19:20                                       ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-28  0:12                         ` [PATCH 2/2] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: extend and use Git->prompt method for querying users Sven Strickroth
2011-12-28  2:41                           ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-28 10:41                             ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-28 21:00                               ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-28 21:38                                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2011-12-28 21:47                                   ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-28 22:29                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2011-12-30  4:40                                       ` Sven Strickroth
2011-12-30 13:54                                         ` Jeff King
2011-12-30 14:53                                           ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-01  9:11                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-01 19:57                                               ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-01 20:55                                                 ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-01 19:45                                   ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-03 18:19                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-01-03 18:40                                       ` Jeff King
2012-02-12 16:02                                         ` Sven Strickroth
2012-02-12 16:11                                           ` Jakub Narebski
2012-02-12 16:26                                             ` Sven Strickroth
2012-02-14 22:20                                               ` Jeff King
2012-02-14 22:35                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-14 22:47                                                   ` Jeff King
2012-01-03 23:24                                       ` Sven Strickroth
2012-01-04  0:12                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-06 15:18                                           ` Sven Strickroth
2012-10-06 18:28                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 16:40                                               ` [PATCH 0/2] second try Sven Strickroth
2012-11-24 19:07                                                 ` Sven Strickroth
2012-11-26  4:50                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-17 15:54                                                     ` Sven Strickroth
2012-12-17 20:08                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-18  0:28                                                         ` [PATCH 1/3] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: add central method for prompting passwords Sven Strickroth
2012-12-18  0:28                                                         ` [PATCH 2/3] perl/Git.pm: Honor SSH_ASKPASS as fallback if GIT_ASKPASS is not set Sven Strickroth
2012-12-18  0:57                                                           ` Jeff King
2012-12-18  0:28                                                         ` [PATCH 3/3] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: extend and use Git->prompt method for querying users Sven Strickroth
2012-11-11 16:40                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: add central method for prompting passwords honoring GIT_ASKPASS and SSH_ASKPASS Sven Strickroth
2012-11-11 16:41                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] git-svn, perl/Git.pm: extend and use Git->prompt method for querying users Sven Strickroth

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