From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: git-scm.com Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:42:41 -0700 Message-ID: <7vk5f5ptwu.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <7v3alxr0fd.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <7vsktwfu5z.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <20080727113707.GC32184@machine.or.cz> <7v3alv2n46.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <7vd4kzyoj1.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <46a038f90807271619l69c085a7o58f50b7d64b7222d@mail.gmail.com> <530345950807272011o7c92fdaaw3116cc257dcbab7a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Tom Werner , git@vger.kernel.org To: Johannes Schindelin X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jul 28 23:44:00 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KNaVT-0006Nx-RV for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:43:52 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756268AbYG1Vmu (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755292AbYG1Vmu (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:50 -0400 Received: from a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:37949 "EHLO sasl.smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752059AbYG1Vmt (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:49 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6E404C6; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com (ip68-225-240-211.oc.oc.cox.net [68.225.240.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D62DE4049F; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:42:43 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 1F1211E8-5CEE-11DD-B86B-3113EBD4C077-77302942!a-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Johannes Schindelin writes: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Tom Werner wrote: > >> I find it a bit confusing that some here seem to have a strong dislike >> for GitHub. It's true that we haven't been active on the developer list >> or in the #git channel on freenode, but we are constantly in #github and >> have answered a *great* many questions from developers that are new to >> git. > > Speaking for myself, I will probably direct some users from #git to > #github, then. I saw more than several times that people asked github specific questions on #git; when they were lucky, there was somebody who knew github and they got necessary help. Otherwise the answer was "eh, sorry, that's a closed service and we cannot help diagnosing the problem you are having". It would have been the right way to help them to refer to the #github support channel. If a company can fund somebody to help new users with git problems on #git while helping people with github problems on #github, that would be a good gesture towards the git community, I'd suppose. > Also note that one of the major gripe with you making money off of Git > could be the following: we have over 500 contributors, and most of them -- > first and foremost of all, the two major contributors, Junio and Shawn -- > cannot make money from Git. Envy is wrong, but it is real. I do not talk for Shawn, but I think that comment misses the mark by a large margin, at least for me. I haven't been in this for money. The original motivation of my involvement was to help sending Linus back to the kernel as quickly as possible, but now I primarily do this for fun. Doing it for money would risk removing the fun factor. What I personally lack right now is time and mental bandwidth. Active contributers of all kinds, ranging from "C coders", "scripters", to "Documentation people" and "dropped patch naggers", have been helping me quite a lot. Corporate sponsors that can pay back in money but not in patches may be able to find other ways to help us, but I do not offhand know what's the most effective way for them to do so if they wanted to.