From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Cc: Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
David Glasser <glasser@davidglasser.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: push.default documented in "man git-push"?
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:17:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vehl57zkh.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpqhaq13xdq.fsf@grenoble-inp.fr> (Matthieu Moy's message of "Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:18:41 +0200")
Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> writes:
> Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 01:03:28PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>
>>> OK, the messages are supposed to advise how to turn them off, so we
>>> would want some code updates in that case.
>>
>> Something like this? It turns out none of the advice messages says
>> anything about advice.*.
>
> Personally, I'm fine with the current situation. Advanced users can read
> the documentation, and for others, the messages are usually more helpful
> than annoying.
OK, you convinced me.
> I disagree. Having advices turned on doesn't harm anyone. I don't
> remember anyone complaining about the verbosity of Git's advices. I've
> seen *many* more people complaining about the user-unfriendliness of
> Git.
>
> I'm fine with very verbose (and scary) messages when the user did
> something wrong (for example, the advice.implicitIdentity is something
> you should never see if you configured Git properly before commiting).
> But the user should not feel blamed for using the default configuration
> of advice messages. The tripple repetition in "git status" shown above
> really sounds like "hey, dumb user, why did you not set
> advice.statusHints already", and is doubly scary for newbies, because
> they are not told how to set the variable, nor what a config variable is
> to Git.
Let's let the list of advice.* messages in Documentation/config.txt
do their job.
Nguyen, thanks for taking a look. I do agree the extra "here is how
to rob helpful hints from yourself before you learn them" seems to
do more harm than good.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-11 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-02 0:25 push.default documented in "man git-push"? David Glasser
2012-10-02 15:09 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-02 15:18 ` David Glasser
2012-10-02 15:38 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-02 16:45 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-02 16:56 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-02 17:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-02 17:25 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-02 18:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-02 19:00 ` David Glasser
2012-10-02 19:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-03 7:54 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-03 8:52 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-03 8:14 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-03 8:17 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-03 8:23 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-03 8:46 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-03 10:18 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-03 18:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-03 21:40 ` Jeff King
2012-10-08 17:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-07 16:09 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-07 20:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-08 7:27 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-10-08 8:35 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-03 18:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-04 2:01 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-04 5:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-05 6:34 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-05 20:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-11 12:43 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-11 14:18 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-11 14:43 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-10-11 16:17 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-10-03 11:58 ` Peter Krefting
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