From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 13:39:41 -0700 Message-ID: <7vboi8rl2q.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <20120719213311.GA20385@sigill.intra.peff.net> <1345310086-20089-1-git-send-email-mhagger@alum.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Jeff King , Martin von Zweigbergk , Thomas Rast , Alexey Muranov , git@vger.kernel.org To: mhagger@alum.mit.edu X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Aug 18 22:39:50 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T2poE-0008RC-0w for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 22:39:50 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751968Ab2HRUjp (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:39:45 -0400 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35]:44235 "EHLO smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751766Ab2HRUjn (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:39:43 -0400 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3139B80; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:39:43 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=Z2WfrP2EMqsOziQXiGl8SQzuq4M=; b=w+mjuj oCZw/OU01UA61j3WYsSC+sq+AT+i5xNBtw03ZSW7sC/ZUfV9rh4cZmxRJitxcNys Pau/W3CyY96OFpKlQGov/1V3TrxL7berI4KrUCuP+7/wl842kZVfr/NeXyw1J6bi AOviM5w3f7IWvBRJF/gCapDGeY41IHL33CaI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=pr9HVrndZhI7TvwFlDN6tE3iyaTwaY5m dnkjY8ZPFBzYRHf+Mru99e5GJGaPAN3sSlnuHFcpiafn78/tKy9L8dEkPwbRSrDo WaPjjgF6koxK2iQcYANHUiehqW1Rllv10Yq3KI7GuScVrN4vVwivuYqLDuH/3xy6 vl6Xt92B2nQ= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3439B7F; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [98.234.214.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97CB79B7D; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:39:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <1345310086-20089-1-git-send-email-mhagger@alum.mit.edu> (mhagger@alum.mit.edu's message of "Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:14:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: D6C1A544-E974-11E1-A48E-01B42E706CDE-77302942!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: mhagger@alum.mit.edu writes: > Given that a flag day would anyway be required to add a d/f-tolerant > system, I could live with a separate "graveyard" namespace as > originally proposed by Jeff. > > However, I still think that as long as we are making a jump, we could > try to land closer to the ultimate destination. Do we _know_ already what the "ultimate destination" looks like? If the answer is yes, then I agree, but otherwise, I doubt it is a good idea to introduce unnecessary complexity to the system that may have to be ripped out and redone. I didn't get the impression that we know the "ultimate destination" from the previous discussion, especially if we discount the tangent around "having next and next/foo at the same time" which was on nobody's wish, but I may be misremembering things.