From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Junio C Hamano Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Reflogs for deleted refs: fix breakage and suggest namespace change Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: <7v4nnwdt7m.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> References: <20120719213311.GA20385@sigill.intra.peff.net> <1345310086-20089-1-git-send-email-mhagger@alum.mit.edu> <7vboi8rl2q.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20120821082719.GA13252@sigill.intra.peff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: mhagger@alum.mit.edu, Martin von Zweigbergk , Thomas Rast , Alexey Muranov , git@vger.kernel.org To: Jeff King X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 21 19:57:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T3shC-0002Lh-9J for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:56:54 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758238Ab2HUR4t (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:56:49 -0400 Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.35]:39292 "EHLO smtp.pobox.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755894Ab2HUR4s (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:56:48 -0400 Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06A37916; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:56:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=qMAfBKgGOv0WCzKMl5X3kCRM6W4=; b=bkjwhr 1clXgKCUBlNxAIleOgoO4XbReG0+N0i63mnhIYbrHhDz3bzNJsYxXyIanAKBnuvb oy5IXvPsqeJmaNDorLhwibbRzLhFMymicYWqetWXhPSp0yqxmG39TKRxRdp9IG7w U0khfNfNqeA5Z0pTpgu5jBbfzFZ/9+enjjrl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=JcXyQfiknCvucScIhQrIWR+GnhCQF9uQ jxzxpKcndE4zXbMfpshskNz8GpK8b1R+aykvCij4kRIGhba5tdVf+3my8ufYfqg4 023ebIbzOnFbbmtoVnY62EowvBHbEiJI1prKMICVhStb94b8XdJdq5XuJAgtqOHx yuGXm02+gQo= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEFB7915; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com (unknown [98.234.214.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 132757914; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:56:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20120821082719.GA13252@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:27:19 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 9354E3B0-EBB9-11E1-B27A-01B42E706CDE-77302942!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Jeff King writes: > So in other words, I do not think any ultimate destination that I find > palatable would be achievable without making the full format jump > anyway. If all things were equal, I'd say there is no reason not to get > as close as we can. But I find some of the proposals significantly less > readable (in particular, the directory-munging is IMHO much harder to > read). And it is not as if it is buying us anything; you still have to > make a magic translation between a dead log and a live one. Yes, that is where the earlier comment of mine on this topic came from. > Another option I've considered is simply holding back the graveyard > topic, working on the d/f tolerant storage, and then implementing the > graveyards on top (which is basically free at that point). But as you > note, it is not really a commonly-requested feature. If it were easy, > I'd say let's do it. But the idea of bumping repositoryformatversion for > the first time in git's history just to add a feature nobody wants is > not very appealing to me. Amen.