From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Imran M Yousuf" Subject: Re: GSoC 2008 - Mentors Wanted! Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:33:49 +0600 Message-ID: <7bfdc29a0803050033y5aca6b93ma7791ebf070ea8da@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080304051149.GS8410@spearce.org> <1b46aba20803041247h5cc64186q2abf7973372fd3ef@mail.gmail.com> <20080305053612.GA8410@spearce.org> <7bfdc29a0803042358n6126286dr7a17f3b4dadbabe5@mail.gmail.com> <20080305081523.GK8410@spearce.org> <7bfdc29a0803050025p45dfcea9q87a1107a8bed46a6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Carlos Rica" , git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" To: "Shawn O. Pearce" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Mar 05 09:34:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JWp54-0001WC-KA for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:34:31 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753522AbYCEIdx (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:33:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753680AbYCEIdx (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:33:53 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]:1776 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751071AbYCEIdw (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:33:52 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z38so3151899ugc.16 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:33:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2NgBQlSX1rvMtu5+2dsD2gWq3JNJZ+kMkt6SjaQI/bk=; b=bs06GtmeEWu07s1CRXp8GTAEMVKPjhjTXnm2WEOnkLh1U/HaWFwBGLYFEnxVLGs1LK2sEH2FXbJGqb2WcGodkylK0Fba5MBKC8NY1SlncAaATpNLh9q7tkXiezn5mTml+jzIIrH0+ceXz0C5erAtEB24t9I6GxIOYJEw/TTvdtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fvT+WXftq4ong6LPmmuGIdE3mMvWr3rpNXDZsnDojkNDHdO1sYhTgz4QgJ96ACSil9egzDnk3IO5hO0c3m7s1hY4g9taq+AxpNMelFv68EJ8qWXxPdZIfObSLp15UJY3VXmcS45i0Rvudf+r2TI5uXQUSoqTWoNse3hQSgW84o0= Received: by 10.78.148.8 with SMTP id v8mr5560209hud.31.1204706030082; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:33:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.75.8 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:33:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7bfdc29a0803050025p45dfcea9q87a1107a8bed46a6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Imran M Yousuf wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > > Imran M Yousuf wrote: > > > 1. GIT SCM Plugin for NetBeans (GPLv2 with CPE, same as NetBeans) > > > The aim of the plugin is to integrate GIT with NetBeans using JNI so > > > that any change in the implementation of GIT does not effect the SCM > > > plugins way of work. > > > Language: Java > > > Goal: Make GIT available from IDE for NetBeans users and use GIT using > > > Java Native Interfaces > > > > Interesting, but libgit.a is *not* suitable for embedding inside of > > a JVM. Its no fun when a low level Git function suddenly calls die() > > because it was fed invalid user input like a mistyped branch name. > > Your whole IDE shutsdown without a chance to save files. > > > > So that leaves you with three possible routes: > > > > * Use JNI and libgit.a > > > > Now you have three projects, not one. You first need to make > > libgit.a embeddable. *Then* you can work on a JNI wrapper, > > and finally you can build the UI. > > > > * Use jgit > > > > Its at least 100% pure Java and doesn't have the libgit.a issues > > I mentioned above. Its also got some active developers and its > > userbase is growing. We have been careful to keep jgit such > > that it runs on any J2SE system, and thus does not require an > > Eclipse environment. > > > > * Use java.lang.Process and pipes > > > > Ick. Forking a running JVM, especially one the size of an IDE, > > is not pretty. At least on Windows you have CreateProcess(), > > but on POSIX systems the JVM still does a fork/exec pair, and > > on Solaris that hurts hard when your address space is large. > > > > Of these only the latter two are really viable for any time to come > > (just my opinion, but that's that). jgit is coming along and may > > actually be able to do most of the critical features that an IDE > > demands, especially if more people work on it. The latter option > > is obviously available today, but doesn't offer anything near the > > performance or integration that jgit does. > > > > To start with I was actually thinking of JNI + "exec from C". So later > when libification is completed we can replace the execs with call to > the libs directly instead. Is this a viable fourth option (sorry I > forgot to mention it the first time around)? > Just wanted to add that we can also make them 2 separate projects and the reason I wanted to go with JNI is to take advantage of the new developments of GIT without having to change the API (unless a new release of the API all together). > > > > > > 2. distributed versioned web system backup and restoration framework > > > (GPLv2 with CPE, same as NetBeans) > > > [I am not sure whether this one is even qualifies or not as a GIT > > > Community Project] > > > Language: Java, NetBeans RCP > > > Goal: Develop a framework which can backup and restore data from > > > different components of web application. For example, database, ldap, > > > log, images, files (PHP, JSP, PY, HTML, JS, CSS etc.). Additionally > > > allow edit and propagation of configuration in distributed nature, > > > system restart, data restore. Also integrate backup and repo maintain > > > to Amazon S3. > > > > Yea, I'm not sure this falls too well under the Git community either. > > I don't doubt that we would have sufficient mentor experience here > > to support such a project, but the outcome in terms of both code and > > a student who is familiar with it would not benefit Git very well, > > if at all. > > > > -- > > Shawn. > > > > > > > > -- > Imran M Yousuf > Entrepreneur & Software Engineer > Smart IT Engineering > Dhaka, Bangladesh > Email: imran@smartitengineering.com > Mobile: +880-1711402557 > -- Imran M Yousuf Entrepreneur & Software Engineer Smart IT Engineering Dhaka, Bangladesh Email: imran@smartitengineering.com Mobile: +880-1711402557