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From: Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Samuel Lijin <sxlijin@gmail.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] travis-ci: run scan-build every time
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:02:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70DA368F-97FB-4492-811D-CCDF4F237939@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170225223146.ixubnwqkfol5q2gn@sigill.intra.peff.net>


> On 25 Feb 2017, at 23:31, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:48:52PM +0100, Lars Schneider wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2017, at 18:29, Samuel Lijin <sxlijin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Introduces the scan-build static code analysis tool from the Clang
>>> project to all Travis CI builds. Installs clang (since scan-build
>>> needs clang as a dependency) to make this possible (on macOS, also
>>> updates PATH to allow scan-build to be invoked without referencing the
>>> full path).
>> 
>> This is a pretty neat idea. However, I think this should become a
>> dedicated job in a TravisCI build (similar to the Documentation job [1])
>> because:
>> a) We don't want to build and test a scan-build version of Git (AFAIK
>>    scan-build kind of proxies the compiler to do its job - I don't if
>>    this has any side effects)
>> b) We don't want to slow down the other builds
>> c) It should be enough to run scan-build once on Linux per build
> 
> Yeah. I am all for static analysis, but I agree it should be its own
> job. Especially as it can be quite noisy with false positives (and I
> really think before any static analysis is useful we need to figure out
> a way to suppress the false positives, so that we can see the signal in
> the noise).
> 
> Fully a third of the problem cases found are dead assignments or
> increments. I looked at a few, and I think the right strategy is to tell
> the tool "no really, our code is fine". For instance, it complains
> about:
> 
>  argc = parse_options(argc, argv, ...);
> 
> when argc is not used again later. Sure, that assignment is doing
> nothing. But from a maintainability perspective, I'd much rather have a
> dead assignment (that the compiler is free to remove) then for somebody
> to later add a loop like:
> 
>  for (i = 0; i < argc; i++)
>          something(argv[i]);
> 
> which will read past the end of the rearranged argv (and probably
> _wouldn't_ be caught by static analysis, because the hidden dependency
> between argc and argv is buried inside the parse_options() call).
> 
> So there is definitely some bug-fixing to be done, but I think there is
> also some work in figuring out how to suppress these useless reports.

That makes sense. I suspected that this assignment was intentional
but I wasn't sure why. I didn't know about the rearrangement of argv.

Apparently an "(void)argc;" silences this warning. Would that be too
ugly to bear? :-)


> Turning off the dead-assignment checker is one option, but I actually
> think it _could_ produce useful results. It just isn't in these cases.
> So I'd much rather if we can somehow suppress the specific callsites.
> 
>> I ran scan-build on the current master and it detected 72 potential bugs [2]. 
>> I looked through a few of them and they seem to be legitimate. If the list agrees
>> that running scan-build is a useful thing and that these problems should be fixed
>> then we could:
>> 
>> (1) Add scan-build check to Travis CI but only print errors as warning
>> (2) Fix the 72 existing bugs over time
>> (3) Turn scan-build warnings into errors
> 
> If they are warnings socked away in a Travis CI job that nobody looks
> out, then I doubt anybody is going to bother fixing them.
> 
> Not that step (1) hurts necessarily, but I don't think it's really doing
> anything until step (2) is finished.

Agreed.


- Lars

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-25 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-24 17:29 [PATCH] travis-ci: run scan-build every time Samuel Lijin
2017-02-25 21:48 ` Lars Schneider
2017-02-25 22:31   ` Jeff King
2017-02-25 23:02     ` Lars Schneider [this message]
2017-02-26  2:09   ` Samuel Lijin
2017-02-26 14:12     ` Lars Schneider
2017-02-27  0:34       ` Samuel Lijin

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