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[116.206.12.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm6040075pgj.91.2021.05.07.21.41.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 May 2021 21:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Pain points in Git's patch flow To: Git Mailing List , Sebastian Schuberth , =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org References: <22a0a383-0ae1-c7d1-75f7-7dfdfe5fb504@gmail.com> <87fszn48lh.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> <20210419214921.afurkxy7oru6bny6@nitro.local> <20210508020855.GF3986@localhost> From: Bagas Sanjaya Message-ID: <6f42d6e2-087a-4c95-1aa1-31ee871c06b4@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 11:41:02 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210508020855.GF3986@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 08/05/21 09.08, dwh@linuxprogrammer.org wrote: > Think about it like this. Right now, I could use an IMAP client to > download all of my emails from GMail, store them in mbox files, then > use the IMAP client to upload the email to Fastmail or SDF.org or some > other email provider. Or better yet, I can install local tools for > working with my email. The fact that email providers/tools are largely > interchangeable and replacable--despite Google/Yahoo/Microsoft's best > efforts--gives maximum power to users. Well, I use Thunderbird because it supports Gmail accounts out of the box. But I wish I could use Mutt or similar, alas Gmail requires that I need to enable 2FA and s/// in order to access Gmail via Mutt. I currently steer clear from 2FA, because once upon a time in 2018 I screwed up (locked-out) from my older account, which IMO mission-critical., for I couldn't pass all possible verification methods for that. So I created new account one in about Día de Kartini (Kartini's day). And yes, Google/Yahoo/MS have webmail interface for their mail services (Gmail/YahooMail/Outlook), but for purposes for sending to vger.kernel.org, these above are rubbish because they genereated HTML emails, and vger hate HTML emails. -- An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara