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From: Shaoxuan Yuan <shaoxuan.yuan02@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>, git@vger.kernel.org, newren@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WIP v3 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 16:26:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <668d7a5f-7c1c-92ca-3db8-62f9bdca3006@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqr13f1het.fsf@gitster.g>


On 6/24/2022 12:19 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
 > Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> writes:
 >
 >> On 6/21/2022 7:30 PM, Victoria Dye wrote:
 >>> Shaoxuan Yuan wrote:
 >>>> But I think it worth discuss if we should implement in-cone to
 >>>> out-of-cone move, since it will be nice (naturally) to have it 
working.
 >>>>
 >>>> However, I noticed this from the mv man page:
 >>>>
 >>>> "In the second form, the last argument has to be an existing 
directory;
 >>>> the given sources will be moved into this directory."
 >>>>
 >>>> I think trying to move out-of-cone, the last argument has to be an 
non-existent
 >>>> directory? I'm a bit confused: should we update some of mv basic 
logic to
 >>>> accomplish this?
 >>>>
 >>>
 >>> I suspect this requirement is related to the POSIX 'mv' [1] (and
 >>> corresponding 'rename()', used in 'git mv'), which also requires 
that the
 >>> destination directory exists. I personally don't think this requirement
 >>> needs to apply to 'git mv' at all, but note that changing the 
behavior would
 >>> require first creating the necessary directories before calling 
'rename()'.
 >>>
 >>> As a more conservative solution, you could do the parent directory 
creation
 >>> *only* in the case of moving to a sparse contents-only directory (using
 >>> something like the 'check_dir_in_index()' function you introduced to
 >>> identify).
 >>>
 >>> I'm also interested in hearing what others have to say, especially 
regarding
 >>> historical context/use cases of 'git mv'.
 >>>
 >>> [1] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/mv.html
 >>
 >> I wanted to reply here to maybe get more attention on this point.
 >>
 >> My personal opinion is that `git mv` should move to the location 
requested,
 >> even if it requires adding parent directories. Changing that 
behavior might
 >> need to come as its own topic, before doing the 
in-cone-to-out-of-cone work.
 >> Knowing if this behavior can change (or must stay the same) informs 
how that
 >> sparse case will work.
 >
 > When a particular checkout excludes directory, say, Documentation/,
 > from its cone of interest, we may not have that directory in the
 > working tree.  In such a scenario, if you did
 >
 >     $ git mv new.txt Documentation/technical/
 >
 > the index may not even know if "Documentation/" (which most likely
 > is represented as a sparse "tree entry in the index") has the
 > "technical" subdirectory in it, so it may have to expand it
 > on-demand.  I do not have an objection against making it easier for
 > users to do this.
 >
 > As part of its implementation, you may have to do an equivalent of
 > "mkdir -p Documentation/technical/" before you can even materialize
 > the "new.txt" file in the directory.  I do not think that breaks the
 > parallel to POSIX "mv" in that case, as Documentation/technical/ is
 > *NOT* really a destination directory that does not exist.
 > Conceptually, the directory (and all the directories in the full
 > tree) exists---it is just the sparse-checkout is hiding it from the
 > view.
 >
 > A corollary to the above is what should happen when you did
 >
 >     $ git mv new.txt Documentation/no-such-directory/
 >
 > i.e. you try to do a move that would fail even if you weren't using
 > the sparse-checkout feature.  I think that *SHOULD* fail, if we
 > wanted to be parallel to what POSIX "mv" does.
 >
 > Thanks.

Agree.

Thanks & Regards,
Shaoxuan


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-24  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-31  9:17 [WIP v1 0/4] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 1/4] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 16:39   ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 14:30     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 2/4] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 10:25   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01  3:51     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 21:28   ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 12:49     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-01 14:49       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-04-04  7:25         ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-04  7:49           ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-04 12:43             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 3/4] mv: add advise_to_reapply hint for moving file into cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 10:30   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01  4:00     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-01  8:02       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-03  2:01         ` Eric Sunshine
2022-03-31 21:56   ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 14:55   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 4/4] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 10:33   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-31 22:11   ` Victoria Dye
2022-03-31  9:28 ` [WIP v1 0/4] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 22:21 ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 12:18   ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-08 12:22 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 10:07 ` [WIP v2 0/5] " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 1/5] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 12:07     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-27 14:48     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 15:51     ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 2/5] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 15:13     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 22:38       ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-31  8:06       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 3/5] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 22:04     ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 4/5] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 15:27     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-31  9:56       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-31 15:49         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 5/5] mv: use update_sparsity() after touching sparse contents Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 12:10     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-27 19:36     ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-27 19:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-27 21:24         ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-16 13:51           ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-16 16:42             ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-17  2:15               ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25 ` [WIP v3 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 1/7] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 21:23     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 2/7] mv: decouple if/else-if checks using goto Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 3/7] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 4/7] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 5/7] mv: use flags mode for update_mode Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 22:32     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-22  9:37       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 6/7] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 22:55     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 7/7] mv: update sparsity after moving from out-of-cone to in-cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 23:11     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-21 23:30   ` [WIP v3 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Victoria Dye
2022-06-23 15:06     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 16:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-24  8:26         ` Shaoxuan Yuan [this message]
2022-06-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v4 " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mv: update sparsity after moving from out-of-cone to in-cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 15:08     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-24  8:04       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-27 13:55         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] mv: decouple if/else-if checks using goto Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] mv: use flags mode for update_mode Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 15:10     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 15:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-24  7:57       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-27 13:59         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 15:16   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 18:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-30  2:37 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 1/8] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 2/8] t1092: mv directory from out-of-cone to in-cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 3/8] mv: update sparsity after moving " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 4/8] mv: decouple if/else-if checks using goto Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 5/8] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 6/8] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 7/8] mv: use flags mode for update_mode Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 8/8] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-07-01 19:43   ` [PATCH v5 0/8] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Derrick Stolee
2022-07-01 21:50     ` Junio C Hamano

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