From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAF11F5AE for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231172AbhFJOpj (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:45:39 -0400 Received: from mail-oo1-f43.google.com ([209.85.161.43]:44698 "EHLO mail-oo1-f43.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230153AbhFJOpj (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:45:39 -0400 Received: by mail-oo1-f43.google.com with SMTP id o5-20020a4a2c050000b0290245d6c7b555so6822574ooo.11 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:43:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vN0kncrnG2NPFWOENZFIPLevmWBpGAG9s1fWblbtKc4=; b=OylSVQouPnVS3bv2FKr85Rmz18LRPpOkdDp6xIXqoFS9VoSejM5DJN6gw2/Td4u0lK OAH4HV6M02SFeZGCnp1vjyn3XKUdXUrTpg23qg49nZFxwrtzSJTb1wczC1b0wcAi3v5B 4WTN+ekOZYNcePyWDgfQffmc1XLoH1lHchN8ZWVGRKs+ftgm1p+tKX4bKL1jIne/0Jir wJ/QSYAhOgzzQ0Cv7dolIyxAEpKHvWlFBLkK6RZGqpt04YHhv8m+fBr1DzdmAR1JId4G ComSelFTy6K1ybBTDWzh0PgkNKxwUA6t/ZKJhOohHCUPBW958au2CAh/ajxMH6WNRJ+5 TlCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vN0kncrnG2NPFWOENZFIPLevmWBpGAG9s1fWblbtKc4=; b=B5zbEi/VUCDxR4rXWmsymG66UoWDlndC0+lRSt8KCeObaa6s8WZ5CDE+b0IOEa5O3l ca/WAFYXTL1DuHzxnHsbYezLKlw7taJnwndnQNa8oJIJRMnDuP+43qD7gzwO8S/Jh4aE K3rg0CVSn3eBADGR/dijbjwK0tOwrVqEuKf52vYA70/fS7fzF7f5srQw4hAL/2hCiki6 8GbRoyue/86bCewzVjqpPm5/EmRZYC23TJMC928cbL5njFLEuV/r+Bk7C4/+zhTcqWXp 1S1GbKVxGyOJdjq1EcWJyv9FcwfYTDcuWiuA9/Qj5JVWJUSPxoRNyGnvSf6UnWNj7iXn PhFw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kcYBAo8/r+CyP70/K7QJquAOoOf/uy47jrSg8zv8f05mxuPWy 2ipjoLb87+XxYlfUYVKwM2s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy+Gx5x6vL44tQCn9fQrPcFUs6HxEUOZfL0q1R/s3hOw+dBhTsdGLXJqLmvwVD3dQ9Fh8I5Ng== X-Received: by 2002:a4a:d781:: with SMTP id c1mr2641937oou.23.1623336162606; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fixed-187-188-155-231.totalplay.net. [187.188.155.231]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 90sm186643otq.20.2021.06.10.07.42.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:42:40 -0500 From: Felipe Contreras To: Johannes Schindelin , Emily Shaffer Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, stolee@gmail.com, jrnieder@gmail.com, Derrick Stolee , Derrick Stolee Message-ID: <60c224e0ed2d4_b25b1208f5@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Documentation: use singular they when appropriate Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Johannes Schindelin wrote: > It is all too easy for male readers such as myself to not even notice how > effortless it is to read text that includes you, whether by the pronoun > "he" or by avoiding any gendered pronoun altogether. I am a male reader, and I have no problem reading "she", as many other (presumably male) readers have stated as well. > In light of this experience, even if I generally agree with your point about > using "she/he" by default, I believe that Stolee's direction is more > diplomatic. Except in diplomacy you are supposed to work with your counterpart, not completely ignore it. *Nobody* has a problem with using "she/her" in the documentation, and yet you push for the option guaranteed to increase conflict. That the opposite of diplomacy. -- Felipe Contreras