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[187.190.78.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i4sm920526oth.38.2021.05.27.20.29.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 27 May 2021 20:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 22:29:10 -0500 From: Felipe Contreras To: Taylor Blau , Felipe Contreras Cc: =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIEtyw7xnZXI=?= , Kevin Daudt , Taylor Blau , Jeff King , =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFsIFN1Y2jDoW5law==?= , Jonathan Nieder , Emily Shaffer , Git List Message-ID: <60b0638618044_49b58208a4@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: References: <20210520071141.GZ8544@kitsune.suse.cz> <7e9683aee2c0fea2ff77b82bfa547e15@jk.gs> <87im33ltqr.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> <60b046dd3f5f2_40592208df@natae.notmuch> Subject: Re: Should we do something with #git-devel on Freenode? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Taylor Blau wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:26:53PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > =C3=86var Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0 Bjarmason wrote: > > > > > I don't see why we'd advertise #git@liberachat and not #git@freenod= e in > > > order to achieve that goal, the latter doesn't seem to be a graveya= rd > > > and is probably still more active. I don't see why we'd need to pic= k > > > between the two, any more than we'd pick between advertising > > > #git@liberachat and the git-users mailing list. Both currently seem= like > > > useful venues for git users to go to get help. > > > > Agreed. > > > > The primary purpose of an IRC channel should be to help users, and if= > > right now the person that could help a user is on freenode, so be it.= > > > > If the people with some political alignment want to emphasize > > LiberaChat, that's fine, but keep mentioning freenode. > = > git-scm.com was updated recently to mention LiberaChat instead of > Freenode [1]. That was done to reflect the reality of [2]. I suspect > that will have been the right decision, but in case it isn't (and > there are still people hanging around in #git on Freenode), then I'd > be in favor of mentioning both. As of this moment (2021-05-27T22:20:00-0500) there's 324 people on Libera.Chat, and 762 on freenode. So yeah... I'd say there are still people hanging around in #git on freenode. > For what it's worth, I also do not care about the Freenode versus > Libera (or vice-versa?) debacle. That said, I do think having one > central place for people to hang out is better than two (if for no > other reason than it's fewer places to check or go to if you want > help), but I would be fine if the status-quo were that there is an > active #git channel on both Libera and Freenode. Sure, one would be better than two, but rarely can we pick the reality that is better... Reality just is. Cheers. -- = Felipe Contreras=