From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS2044 198.145.29.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E57C433B4 for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 20:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A50611AB for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 20:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1353016AbhELUhr (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 May 2021 16:37:47 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47084 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1382753AbhELTpv (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 May 2021 15:45:51 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-x236.google.com (mail-oi1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::236]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1816AC06174A for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x236.google.com with SMTP id u16so23329272oiu.7 for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IVPoWEvIntZVKqOM1KqAuacBVj1dJgZqqk2FfTBhYfA=; b=pN/TJQacnfu8R7AMAtGZ+PUHu4g4VCdI93H6C6INkA8jO+eHpUL5iwL0zeKW2yS/ug 6e5kbrAtaRm9OtaA748Q/mS54U4wmnuIFPLL8Xdr0hA8AGPDkS02diFNUFOqtsq/iIUY cfyb6lCUXRFH1edB1KAQgxqohOSuOY2/Z2VNzhEiQKk7E95xVzYNaebK0O1k+z5F1OLB qNkocMyzT5laHVhwzrGMbt3vwUR1fIm8C9nFy3O2AVYR+PRfHQgEV7oKyi1mNf1K0jAk dTiBk1WZsV0oEj+3FVkEDxq/zCp4n7Ur5xVpWFSRByNqbhvJg+mE2WQUZkUPyyk0kfj1 1ihA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IVPoWEvIntZVKqOM1KqAuacBVj1dJgZqqk2FfTBhYfA=; b=h8KlobPssGpdDz0UdDiERsxBMNeaWqsSUippJ6JwLNWaCImQBHI4JWWzhBVq2iQweR qzw1hpcSpm4OwfvLPfOdnEfJgAN8rZ/Y4+umg9V7MOaLu2dTQk0uf05Jklkttx7k6fCp d2kFYd34gOkvpwUZdD9NuhMLwsYyPbjHODPXCYXQw8v9VKph2+t9UMkODfa2bZ3Q/wN/ PX99Py1n5vpg7akSAyzq3kkXFm3RqZQs9WHPSrafLgfbJo3AOGcnObYcdWf7o4bkpuS8 f57970Hx49UFzZARE4TJj+8dLO40JJHwVpTCmeRD623pAlKNBh7y0UIZc0gvd3LR9c/z kqMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532fr28JoP5d+XkljH8FvEVbOa6yyR4lc3lV4JCEZfyGK9N18DF5 cMuvEs9tZumk15YXiOvIhUk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz7suZyyDm8xEfNQ38gZhq9RXkOJ2dYVnJXDfmyvUzUFBWYW4eIoEPEclBkA2YB0z1BeHP0+g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:b35:: with SMTP id t21mr7897829oij.18.1620848538562; Wed, 12 May 2021 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2806:2f0:4060:638f:a2c5:89ff:fe0c:1151]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w3sm144025otg.78.2021.05.12.12.42.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 12 May 2021 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 14:42:16 -0500 From: Felipe Contreras To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFsIFN1Y2jDoW5law==?= , Felipe Contreras Cc: Varun Varada , git@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <609c2f98932f3_71bd120840@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: <20210512180418.GF8544@kitsune.suse.cz> References: <609ae224aa509_6064920851@natae.notmuch> <20210511202502.GM12700@kitsune.suse.cz> <609b4eea1088a_678ff208ba@natae.notmuch> <20210512040926.GN12700@kitsune.suse.cz> <609b63e48fd49_6d7da2086@natae.notmuch> <20210512064733.GP12700@kitsune.suse.cz> <20210512170153.GE8544@kitsune.suse.cz> <609c112066acd_71bd1208aa@natae.notmuch> <20210512180418.GF8544@kitsune.suse.cz> Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Michal Such=C3=A1nek wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:32:16PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Michal Such=C3=A1nek wrote: > > > Yes, I am not opposed to the change in principle. > > = > > Good, so you accept you see nothing wrong with "affect". > > = > > > You just failed to provide any valid reason. > > = > > *In your opinion*. > > = > > In my opinion the problems with the word "impact" have been clearly > > explained. > = > However, you only brought your personal opinion for the case that > 'impact' is somehow wrong and should be changed. No I didn't. I used dictionary definitions to explain why it's wrong to use it the way git uses both as a noun and a transitive verb. > 'impact' and 'affect' are equally good based on the past discussion so > you will not bring change based on the 'badness' of 'impact'. That is your opinion, and its not shared by everyone. It's extremely disingenious to elevate your opinion as fact, especially when this is precisely the thing we are discussing. > You claim that people who do not want to change 'impact' ignore your > opinion. No I don't. I clam *you* pretend other opinions don't even exist. > Don't you equally ignore the opinion of people who think 'impact' is > fine by insisting that the wording be changed based solely on your > opinion? No, unlike you I acknowledge there's other people with different opinions. However, that opinion is that "impact" is fine, *not* that "affect" is bad. If you and your wife are deciding what to eat for dinner, and you have two opinions: 1. Whatever is fine 2. I really would like pizza What do you think you should order? -- = Felipe Contreras=