From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111CC1F5AE for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 03:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229964AbhELDLH (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 May 2021 23:11:07 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:51484 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229934AbhELDLG (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 May 2021 23:11:06 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com (mail-ot1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767B9C061574 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 20:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id u25-20020a0568302319b02902ac3d54c25eso19407167ote.1 for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 20:09:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xLC09sKaGCeOVR13oE4lkwbUG6tuOGBYCn9bEiGWRb0=; b=YbjZ5wLZBFOVPGuVzohHUkhkV/7zH5ZFCO1kT+9myTT47DTvs7pl8JYj/aXXkNYpJx uOlDSdkVFdP92MA/FVZ+3SlkG/wCGVC67N2fuTHSXLeUj+Iy6D68Bcgshzff2xwsxjl5 ty+1LVSl7r8ycu45jBZjH8+F3qsQy441lH3EVNDu19rcV4+reBjGIZboUw9oEch/v/pp GKG/N/6BGqgsYRTY6C0w7HAQYE+1TIHLaVYLL7VkxiNKzXekFttugkbR2gtKh3zdY6+r 0zkKLnqNZLZ6wmFDrcZ93ihlh98ih2jZAvhcFO0252YASLC6AOjuigvHuTAa1Q3fjbEr BlNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xLC09sKaGCeOVR13oE4lkwbUG6tuOGBYCn9bEiGWRb0=; b=TdRUkGcyY7ZJgjWKqiYAVI8HzH7heywspY8KnJ+uMQZG7Z5ktnMdYJQZSE31p1Djea 1lEN/osezV2HXhwRsmTbx4H2t1EKytnubve9x2kGPag9S1pg8wPvN0bHeYQa/jm4UNsb zk92a29cDH9dn2EiI76RRrLdcGwcDjVdqGWZ39UN/uP6S5Gddnt+GrmmXc/oF6vEMrhA GrRUx3pOTCwrsiuXe7fOHTqNFCLnql4xNhPWLPzwa1WkXFYYiXCVovcB8kE6LulWYvao 7rBPlmn4/Vfkiz4NutBNmKv/pbXggwTKUG8Y3YfZqQFyb4EYWFJSJCuF6j+8AP8ZhCbc tltg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Ef8Jo2GZ/Rh2dzXsZowfyQJgF/VhNbiXMbMz0wtm+J3BIK8Jt 4C/TgWzCQdjdFRKThO+aNIL2onYM0sVF4g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwgbPmjUwsfLvhYYDOAYBGVr1tmSq/aZ/HEjDkSu5RsxjaHV3rjHWNUvRy/RDTDSMCCTrq8gA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:15d2:: with SMTP id j18mr29023960otr.89.1620788997947; Tue, 11 May 2021 20:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2806:2f0:4060:638f:a2c5:89ff:fe0c:1151]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b19sm1338169oib.46.2021.05.11.20.09.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 11 May 2021 20:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 22:09:56 -0500 From: Felipe Contreras To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFsIFN1Y2jDoW5law==?= , Felipe Contreras Cc: Varun Varada , git@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <609b47043a719_678ff208e@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: <20210511195723.GL12700@kitsune.suse.cz> References: <20210406092440.GZ6564@kitsune.suse.cz> <609ad9473d535_6011e2082@natae.notmuch> <20210511195723.GL12700@kitsune.suse.cz> Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Michal Such=C3=A1nek wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 02:21:43PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Michal Such=C3=A1nek wrote: > > > If you are concerned about correctness and clarity of the documenta= tion please > > > avoid spreading misinformation. > > = > > Under certain definition of "jaron" Varun's statement would be > > incorrect, but not under all definitions. If you use the definition > > I stated above, "impact" can be considered jargon, because it's a bit= > > obscure language. > = > Do you have any frequency data that supports your claim that the word > 'impact' is obscure? This is not how logic works. If I don't have frequency data that supports $x, but you have no frequency data that supports !$x, then we return to the default position;= we don't know if $x is true or not. Do **you** have any frequency data that supports the negative claim that the word "impact" is not obscure? > The bar for change should be that the word as used is very unfitting or= > unintelligible. No. The bar is that **nobody** have any problem with "affect", and some people have a problem with "impact". Do you have any problem with "affect"? -- = Felipe Contreras=