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[187.190.78.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r83sm801685oih.48.2021.05.11.19.59.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 11 May 2021 19:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 21:59:49 -0500 From: Felipe Contreras To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGFsIFN1Y2jDoW5law==?= , Varun Varada Cc: Jeff King , git@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <609b44a559ade_678ff2088@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: <20210511104326.GJ12700@kitsune.suse.cz> References: <20210428085838.GN6564@kitsune.suse.cz> <20210428184956.GS6564@kitsune.suse.cz> <20210430075924.GB6564@kitsune.suse.cz> <20210510173502.GH12700@kitsune.suse.cz> <20210511104326.GJ12700@kitsune.suse.cz> Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Michal Such=C3=A1nek wrote: > Also there is no single authority on the English language. The language= > is spoken in multiple distinct countries, and even within one country > there is some variation. It also evolves over time. And this is precisely the reason why you target the least common denominator. Do you have **any** instance in which the sentence with "affect" reads worse than with "impact"? > Since you can look up the meaning of the word in a general purpose > dictionary it should be an acceptable use even if it's less commonly > used in some other English-speaking parts of the world. If you are writing classic prose, and most of your audience needs to use the dictionary to understand what you meant, you have failed. > > > If you do wholesale word replacement in the project for no good rea= son > > > it only makes working with the project history harder. > > = > > I'm not sure I understand the sentiment here. As in, the Git history > > will be polluted? Because the "git blame" command will only show > > changes for the lines where I changed the single words. > = > Yes, it will be polluted. And since we have an opinion of another nativ= e > English speaker that the use of 'impact' as synonym for affect/effect i= s > fine this is clearly a matter of opinion. It's not just native English speakers that read the English documentation. > This topic somewhat interests me so I was continuing this discussion > in the hope that you either provide a specific very confusing use of th= e > word impact in the documentation that triggered creating this patch or > some solid evidence that the general use of word 'impact' as synonym fo= r > affect/effect is in some way problematic but niether happened. This is not how improvements work. We have two options: $a, and $b. You argue that $a doesn't really provide any advantages over $b (although it has been clearly demonstrated= that it does). But you are not providing any advantage of $b over $a either. Let's turn the tables around; do **you** have any evidence that "impact" is superior to "affect" in **any** instance? -- = Felipe Contreras=