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From: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>
Cc: Pavel Kretov <firegurafiku@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [idea] File history tracking hints
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:02:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5fb263a8-d83b-64a7-812f-fd8e3748feb6@jeffhostetler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1709300110350.40514@virtualbox>



On 9/29/2017 7:12 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Hi Philip,
> 
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Philip Oakley wrote:
> 
>> From: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
>>
>>> In light of such experiences, I have to admit that the notion that the
>>> rename detection can always be improved in hindsight puts quite a bit of
>>> insult to injury for those developers who are bitten by it.
>>
>> Your list made me think that the hints should be directed toward what may be
>> considered existing solutions for those specific awkward cases.
>>
>> So the hints could be (by type):
>> - template;licence;boiler-plate;standard;reference :: copy
>> - word-rename
>> - regex for word substitution changes (e.g. which chars are within 'Word-_0`)
>> - regex for white-space changes (i.e. which chars are considered whitespace.)
>> - move-dir path/glob spec
>> - move-file path/glob spec
>> (maybe list each 'group' of moves, so that once found the rest of the rename
>> detection follows the group.)
>>
>> Once the particular hint is detected (path qualified) then the clue/hint is
>> used to assist in parsing the files to simplify the comparison task and locate
>> common lines, or common word patterns.
>>
>> The first example is just a set of alternate terms folk use for the new
>> duplicate file file case.
>>
>> The second is a hint that there has been a number of fairly global name
>> changes in the files. so not only do a word diff but detect & sumarise those
>> global changes. (your class move example)
>>
>> The third is the more simple global word changes, based on a limited char set
>> for a 'word' token list.
>> The fourth is where we are focussed on the white space part (complementing the
>> word token viewpoint)
>>
>> The move hints are lists of path specs that each have distinctly moved.
>>
>> It may be possible to order the hints as well, so that the detections work in
>> the right order, giving the heuristics a better chance!
> 
> I think my point was: no matter how likely we thought any heuristic rename
> detection can be perfected over time, history proved that suspicion
> incorrect.
> 
> Therefore, it would be good to have a way to tell Git about renames
> explicitly so that it does not even need to use its heuristics.

Agreed.

It would be nice if every file (and tree) had a permanent GUID
associated with it.  Then the filename/pathname becomes a property
of the GUIDs.  Then you can exactly know about moves/renames with
minimal effort (and no guessing).  But I suppose that ship has sailed...

Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-30  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-11  7:11 [idea] File history tracking hints Pavel Kretov
2017-09-11 18:11 ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-11 18:47   ` Jacob Keller
2017-09-11 18:41 ` Jeff King
2017-09-11 20:09 ` Igor Djordjevic
2017-09-11 21:48 ` Philip Oakley
2017-09-13 11:38   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-14 23:22     ` Philip Oakley
2017-09-29 23:12       ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-30  8:02         ` Jeff Hostetler [this message]
2017-09-30 15:11           ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-01  3:27           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-02 17:41             ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-02 18:51               ` Jeff Hostetler
2017-10-02 19:18                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-02 20:02                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2017-10-03  0:52                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-03  0:45               ` Junio C Hamano

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