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From: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"David Turner" <novalis@novalis.org>,
	"Brandon Williams" <bmwill@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/29] Create a reference backend for packed refs
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 13:14:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57a15496-ab0b-97fc-b6a2-8c2526f2c5d3@alum.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170624011131.5kgmzgpb4vtwikk5@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On 06/24/2017 03:11 AM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 02:47:01PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
>>> Speculating on my own question. I guess it would prepare us for a day
>>> when a possible ref store is to use a packed-refs _without_ loose refs.
>>> IOW, the property is defined on packed-refs today, but a possible future
>>> direction would be to use it by itself. But maybe I'm just making things
>>> up.
>>
>> OK.  In other words, it's not a packed-refs's characteristics that
>> cruft are allowed.  It's that a ref storage that is implemented as
>> an overlay of one storage (which happens to be the loose one) on top
>> of another (which happens to be the packed refs file) allows the
>> latter one to have cruft if (and only if) that broken one is covered
>> by the former one.
> 
> Thanks, that's a much better way of saying what I was trying to get at.
> I don't know if that's Michael's argument or not, but it's certainly one
> I find reasonable. :)

That was exactly my thinking. A packed-without-loose storage scheme
might, for example, be interesting for people with case-insensitive or
strangely-Unicode-normalized filesystems but have colleagues who like to
use case or Unicode in their reference names. (Of course that would
still require a way to store symbolic refs and reflogs, so I'm not
saying that we're there yet.)

I also think it is a good idea to keep the backends' interfaces as
similar as possible to reduce the number of quirks that the reader has
to keep in mind.

Michael


  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-24 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-23  7:01 [PATCH v2 00/29] Create a reference backend for packed refs Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/29] t1408: add a test of stale packed refs covered by loose refs Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 18:59   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23 20:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/29] add_packed_ref(): teach function to overwrite existing refs Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/29] packed_ref_store: new struct Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/29] packed_ref_store: move `packed_refs_path` here Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/29] packed_ref_store: move `packed_refs_lock` member here Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/29] clear_packed_ref_cache(): take a `packed_ref_store *` parameter Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/29] validate_packed_ref_cache(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/29] get_packed_ref_cache(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/29] get_packed_refs(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/29] add_packed_ref(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/29] lock_packed_refs(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/29] commit_packed_refs(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/29] rollback_packed_refs(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/29] get_packed_ref(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/29] repack_without_refs(): " Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/29] packed_peel_ref(): new function, extracted from `files_peel_ref()` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/29] packed_ref_store: support iteration Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:12   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 18/29] packed_read_raw_ref(): new function, replacing `resolve_packed_ref()` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 19/29] packed-backend: new module for handling packed references Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:35   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23 19:46     ` Stefan Beller
2017-06-23 21:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 20/29] packed_ref_store: make class into a subclass of `ref_store` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:40   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 21/29] commit_packed_refs(): report errors rather than dying Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 22/29] commit_packed_refs(): use a staging file separate from the lockfile Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:46   ` Jeff King
2017-06-24 11:43     ` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-24 11:57       ` Jeff King
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 23/29] packed_refs_lock(): function renamed from lock_packed_refs() Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 24/29] packed_refs_lock(): report errors via a `struct strbuf *err` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 25/29] packed_refs_unlock(), packed_refs_is_locked(): new functions Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 26/29] clear_packed_ref_cache(): don't protest if the lock is held Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:49   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 27/29] commit_packed_refs(): remove call to `packed_refs_unlock()` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:51   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 28/29] repack_without_refs(): don't lock or unlock the packed refs Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:56   ` Jeff King
2017-07-01 17:11     ` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23  7:01 ` [PATCH v2 29/29] read_packed_refs(): die if `packed-refs` contains bogus data Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:58   ` Jeff King
2017-07-01 18:15     ` Michael Haggerty
2017-06-23 19:01 ` [PATCH v2 00/29] Create a reference backend for packed refs Jeff King
2017-06-23 20:00   ` Jeff King
2017-06-23 21:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-24  1:11       ` Jeff King
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Michael Haggerty [this message]
2017-06-23 20:24   ` Junio C Hamano

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