From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stefano Lattarini Subject: Bad attitudes and problems in the Git community (was: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:05:45 +0200 Message-ID: <51B596E9.9080307@gmail.com> References: <20130608164902.GA3109@elie.Belkin> <20130608173447.GA4381@elie.Belkin> <20130609014049.GA10375@google.com> <20130609052624.GB561@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20130609174049.GA1039@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20130609181002.GC810@sigill.intra.peff.net> <51B4F6CA.8020807@alum.mit.edu> <51B51256.5060602@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael Haggerty , Johan Herland , Jeff King , Jonathan Nieder , Duy Nguyen , Git Mailing List , Junio C Hamano , Brandon Casey , Ramkumar Ramachandra To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Jun 10 11:06:03 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uly37-0003TA-Ra for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:06:02 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752928Ab3FJJF6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:05:58 -0400 Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com ([209.85.214.54]:55322 "EHLO mail-bk0-f54.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752914Ab3FJJF4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:05:56 -0400 Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id it16so1191435bkc.27 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gndEyHgiBT9wjvf4/Oq2N/CBr4gLlkMjnd2wqBJx480=; b=HfA16r+UoPWxsn7fDDFWjM69pWof8AWMm7gRoHWp0U0LfFeuRCjsD3WkV5Z/y8/8j7 ZNwdDmTsJcNyQprdPZwQWM/p8x/zIupDHwkC5z9bZtoa3g4D3+DqLD7micsYqNY+rEp6 a/IgJLAheKy8qlJTUuZG4T/PCJNmu2KhXfH+akGgsSUZDEzkIniB+MSGzf5KGNwDdCV8 ocJSNFs2+Vuil6MG84UOQNpicEIhPvCJLOUmcJZKTMHvkGgSuQCqa3hBGTy5euOLIsEz Tgc8Y8kDma05gOl00j1Rh1FO+eCp8kw8Q9ZWYSsv/9lBh9TqjVaWgzMWQlyQfdY05n0O QH2A== X-Received: by 10.205.7.71 with SMTP id on7mr1344034bkb.23.1370855155157; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (host93-95-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [79.6.95.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jy7sm3235647bkb.6.2013.06.10.02.05.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 06/10/2013 07:15 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Stefano Lattarini > wrote: > >> I do accuse Felipe's *attitude* to bring on and nourish such >> unpleasantness toxicity. His technical merits and the possible >> qualities of his patches do *nothing* to remove or quell such >> issues. > > How convenient to accuse me > I accuse your *attitude*, which IMHO is now even damaging your code (that is, the acceptance of your code on the part of the community). > and not the others who have as much fault if not more. > Sorry, this is just your opinion. Mine, by observing the proceeding from the outside, is different: my opinion is that your attitude is the problem. > You need two sides to have an argument. > I disagree. Unless you mean than, whenever a part behaves in a hostile and aggressive way, the other part should just silently knuckle under. > The difference is; I did actually send code. Code that is good, code > that works, and code that users need. > As I said, as a *user* (since I'm definitely not a Git developer in any sense of the word), I also need a calm and constructive environment in the community. Or are you interested only in users that can benefit from things you are good at? Regards, Stefano