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From: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: GitList <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/13] Documentation/Makefile: update git guide links
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:24:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512D1A0D.7020203@iee.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7va9qsndnn.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On 26/02/13 00:04, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org> writes:
>
>> On 25/02/13 05:29, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> ...
>>> In other words, can't you change the side that launches the document
>>> viewer so that we do not have to rename anything in the first place?
>>
>> The current help code will only show either 'git-<cmd>' man pages, or
>> git<guide>' pages so the current everyday and user-manual pages aren't
>> served by the existing help code.
>
> That is exactly what I meant by "the side that launches the document
> viewer".  We obviously would not want to type
>
> 	$ git help gituser-manual
>          $ git help giteveryday
Neither do I...

>
> I was wondering if you can keep document names as-is, register these
> names without "git" prefix (i.e. "user-manual.html")

I don't register them at all. I'm simply gathering a list of common 
guides in the array so that I can show that list as a 'usage' list, in 
exactly the same manner as the common commands list is used when 'git 
help' [ no options] is typed.

>   to the list of
> guide documents you are generating and compiling into the binary,
> and let the user ask:
>
> 	$ git help everyday

This is the existing way.
'git help tutorial' will display the gittutorial.txt man page - Note the 
git prefix is required by the code.

It is interesting to note that 'git help k' and 'git help gitk' produce 
the same response, while gitk can't be a common-command because it 
doesn't have a dashed form so isn't picked up by the script ;-)

>
> which you would turn into "browser %s/%s.html" % (GIT_HTML_PATH, 'everyday'),
> after checking "everyday" is one of the guides that are available to us.
>
> If some guides are already named with git prefix, you can keep them
> in the compiled-in list with that name.  We do not have to worry
> about redirects and people's bookmarks if we can avoid renaming
> existing pages, so "because grabbing everything with git* glob was
> easier to write the generate-guidelist script" is a false economy.

I was hoping to avoid more special casing of special files for special 
purposes..
> That is the single place we can afford to spend extra effort to make
> the end result easier to use by the users, no?
It could be done.

>
> Or am I misreading the series completely?
Yes, I think so (in terms of my starting point and approach).

I was using the existing common-commands approach _just_ to display a 
'usage' string of common guides. so that new users would be informed of 
their presence, and then they would use the existing command 'git help 
<guide>' to read about it (see also patch 2/13).

It was just unfortunate that the user-manual and everyday didn't fit the 
existing naming pattern causing the writing of patch 8 & 9 et seq to 
sort the renames to fit the pattern (just like git-remote-helpers)

Also, I think it's the user-manual, one of the files doesn't fit the 
'man page' style required by the MAN7 list in Documentation/Makefile, so 
that's another potential complication I need to bottom out - most likely 
keep it 'as is' in the Makefile and check that the Help command will 
display it properly if done that way.

Philip

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-26 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-23 23:05 [PATCH 00/13] Git help option to list user guides Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 01/13] Use 'Git' in help messages Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:41   ` David Aguilar
2013-02-23 23:54     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-24  8:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-24 21:50       ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-24 22:11       ` David Aguilar
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 02/13] Show 'git help <guide>' usage, with examples Philip Oakley
2013-02-24 14:39   ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-24 22:05     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 03/13] Help.c use OPT_COUNTUP Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 04/13] Help.c add --guide option Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 05/13] Help.c: add list_common_guides_help() function Philip Oakley
2013-02-24  9:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-24 21:51     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-25  5:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-25 23:43         ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-25 23:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 06/13] Add guide-list.txt and extraction shell Philip Oakley
2013-02-24 14:51   ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-24 22:12     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 07/13] Extend name string for longer names Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 09/13] Rename everyday to giteveryday Philip Oakley
2013-02-24 14:55   ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-24 22:16     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 10/13] Update Git(1) links to guides Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:05 ` [PATCH 11/13] Add missing guides to list and regenerate Philip Oakley
2013-02-23 23:06 ` [PATCH 12/13] Documentation/Makefile: update git guide links Philip Oakley
2013-02-24 14:58   ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-24 22:31     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-25  5:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-25 23:43     ` Philip Oakley
2013-02-26  0:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-26 20:24         ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2013-02-23 23:06 ` [PATCH 13/13] Fixup! doc: giteveryday and user-manual man format Philip Oakley
2013-02-24 15:01   ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-24 22:32     ` Philip Oakley

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