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From: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, benpeart@microsoft.com, peff@peff.net,
	sunshine@sunshineco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:12:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50195f7a-c452-c784-ab23-d05956d48470@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh8hdtsro.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>



On 10/22/2018 8:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> From: Ben Peart <benpeart@microsoft.com>
>>
>> refresh_index() is done after a reset command as an optimization.  Because
>> it can be an expensive call, warn the user if it takes more than 2 seconds
>> and tell them how to avoid it using the --quiet command line option or
>> reset.quiet config setting.
> 
> I am moderately negative on this step.  It will irritate users who
> know about and still choose not to use the "--quiet" option, because
> they want to gain performance in later real work and/or they want to
> know what paths are now dirty.  A working tree that needs long time
> to refresh will take long time to instead do "cached stat info says
> it may be modified so let's run 'diff' for real---we may discover
> that there wasn't any change after all" when a "git diff" is run
> after a "reset --quiet" that does not refresh; i.e. there would be
> valid reasons to run "reset" without "--quiet".
> 
> It feels a bit irresponsible to throw an ad without informing
> pros-and-cons and to pretend that we are advising on BCP.  In
> general, we do *not* advertise new features randomly like this.
> 
> Thanks.  The previous two steps looks quite sensible.
> 

The challenge I'm trying to address is the discoverability of this 
significant performance win.  In earlier review feedback, all mention of 
this option speeding up reset was removed.  I added this patch to enable 
users to find out it even exists as an option.

While I modeled this on the untracked files/--uno and ahead/behind 
logic, I missed adding this to the 'advice' logic so that it can be 
turned off and avoid irritating users.  I'll send an updated patch that 
corrects that.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-23 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17 16:40 [PATCH v1 0/2] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-17 16:40 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-17 18:14   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-17 18:22     ` Jeff King
2018-10-18  3:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-18  6:36         ` Jeff King
2018-10-18 18:15           ` Ben Peart
2018-10-18 18:26             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-18 19:03               ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19  0:34             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-17 16:40 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-17 18:19   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-17 18:23     ` Jeff King
2018-10-23  9:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-23 18:11         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 20:02           ` Jeff King
2018-10-23 20:03           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-24 15:48             ` Recommended configurations (was Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting) Derrick Stolee
2018-10-24 23:58               ` Jeff King
2018-10-25  4:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-19 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:36     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-19 16:46       ` Jeff King
2018-10-19 17:10         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-19 17:11           ` Jeff King
2018-10-19 17:23             ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19 19:08               ` Jeff King
2018-10-22  5:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-19 17:11         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart
2018-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-22 20:44     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-22 22:07       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23  8:53         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-23 15:46         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-23 19:55           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-22 14:45     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-23 18:47       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-24  2:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24  7:21           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24 14:54           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-25  1:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24 14:49         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-22 19:13     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-22 20:06       ` Jeff King
2018-10-23 17:31         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 17:35           ` Jeff King
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart
2018-10-23  0:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23 17:12       ` Ben Peart [this message]
2018-10-23 19:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-24  0:39     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-25  4:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25  9:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25 13:26           ` Ben Peart
2018-10-25 17:04           ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart

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