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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net,
	steadmon@google.com, jrnieder@gmail.com, peff@peff.net,
	congdanhqx@gmail.com, phillip.wood123@gmail.com,
	emilyshaffer@google.com, sluongng@gmail.com,
	jonathantanmy@google.com,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] maintenance: store the "last run" time in config
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:34:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4fe41132-c8f5-6b85-414f-5a1e5fcccdc9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh7sqz93k.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On 8/25/2020 5:52 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I selected the timestamp before the task, as opposed to after the task,
>> for a couple reasons:
>>
>>  1. The time the task takes to execute should not contribute to the
>>     interval between running the tasks.
> 
> ... as long as the run time is sufficiently shorter than the
> interval, that is.  If a task takes 10-30 minutes depending on how
> dirty the repository is, it does not make sense to even try to run
> it every 15 minutes.

Definitely. The lock on the object database from earlier prevents these
longer-than-anticipated tasks from stacking.

>> If a daily task takes 10 minutes
>>     to run, then every day the execution will drift by at least 10
>>     minutes.
> 
> That is not incorrect per-se, but it does not tell us why drifting
> by 10 minutes is a bad thing.

True.

>>  2. If the task fails for some unforseen reason, it would be good to
>>     indicate that we _attempted_ the task at a certain timestamp. This
>>     will avoid spamming a repository that is in a bad state.
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
>> +static void update_last_run(struct maintenance_task *task)
>> +{
>> +	timestamp_t now = approxidate("now");
>> +	struct strbuf config = STRBUF_INIT;
>> +	struct strbuf value = STRBUF_INIT;
>> +	strbuf_addf(&config, "maintenance.%s.lastrun", task->name);
>> +	strbuf_addf(&value, "%"PRItime"", now);
> 
> So is this essentially meant as a human-unreadable opaque value,
> like we have in the commit object header lines?  I do not have a
> strong opinion, but it would be nice to allow curious to casually
> read it.  Perhaps "git config --type=timestamp maintenance.lastrun"
> can be taught to pretty print its value?

Good idea. I will think on this. Of course, we already have
--type=expiry-date, which does the opposite. Perhaps this config
value should be a human-readable date and then be parsed into a
timestamp in-process using git_config_expiry_date()?

I have mixed feelings on using that format, because it can store
both a fixed or relative datetime. The *.lastRun config really
wants a _fixed_ datetime, but the *.schedule config (in the next
patch) would want a _relative_ datetime. This also allows things
like "now" or "never", so it presents a lot of flexibility for
users. A nightmare to test, but perhaps that flexibility is
useful.

(Of course, in another thread you mentioned multiple `crontab`
lines, which might make this entire discussion irrelevant. I'll
follow up there.)

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-26 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19 17:16 [PATCH 0/7] [RFC] Maintenance III: background maintenance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 1/7] maintenance: optionally skip --auto process Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-20  2:06   ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2020-08-20 12:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 3/7] maintenance: add --scheduled option and config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-20 14:51   ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2020-08-24 14:03     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 4/7] for-each-repo: run subcommands on configured repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-20 15:00   ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2020-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 5/7] maintenance: add [un]register subcommands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 6/7] maintenance: add start/stop subcommands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 7/7] maintenance: recommended schedule in register/start Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
     [not found] ` <bdc27fa28ee70222ed3c7c9863746ace8ea835e4.1597857409.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
2020-08-20 14:34   ` [PATCH 2/7] maintenance: store the "last run" time in config Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2020-08-25 18:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] [RFC] Maintenance III: background maintenance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] maintenance: optionally skip --auto process Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 21:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 12:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-26 16:57         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25 18:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] maintenance: store the "last run" time in config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 21:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 13:34       ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2020-08-26 17:03         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-27 13:02           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 18:40   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] maintenance: add --scheduled option and config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 22:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 15:30       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-27 15:47         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 18:40   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] for-each-repo: run subcommands on configured repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 22:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-26 16:03       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 18:40   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] maintenance: add [un]register subcommands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:40   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] maintenance: add start/stop subcommands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:40   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] maintenance: recommended schedule in register/start Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] [RFC] Maintenance III: background maintenance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] maintenance: optionally skip --auto process Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] maintenance: add --schedule option and config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] for-each-repo: run subcommands on configured repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] maintenance: add [un]register subcommands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] maintenance: add start/stop subcommands Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-28 15:45     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] maintenance: recommended schedule in register/start Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-26 12:42 ` [PATCH 0/7] [RFC] Maintenance III: background maintenance Michal Suchánek

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