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From: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
To: Markus Elfring <Markus.Elfring@web.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: coccinelle: improve array.cocci
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 20:02:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f55b06b-35f3-da06-ae86-8a4068f78027@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d053612d-107b-fdb2-b722-6455ef068239@web.de>

Am 20.11.19 um 10:01 schrieb Markus Elfring:
>> I don't like that ALLOC_ARRAY is handled in the same rule, as it is
>> quite different from the other two macros.
>
> This case distinction can share a few metavariables with the other
> transformation approach, can't it?

Can it can, but should it?  In my opinion it should not; separate
concerns should get their own rules.  That's easier to manage for
developers.  I suspect it's also easier for Coccinelle to evaluate,
but didn't check.

>> Coccinelle needs significantly longer to apply the new version.
>
> This can happen because of a more complete source code search pattern,
> can't it?

Perhaps.

> The data processing can benefit from parallelisation (if desired.)
> https://github.com/coccinelle/coccinelle/blob/66a1118e04a6aaf1acdae89623313c8e05158a8d/docs/manual/spatch_options.tex#L745

Right.  I use MAKEFLAGS += -j6, which runs six spatch instances in
parallel for the coccicheck make target of Git instead.

>> Here are times for master:
>
> The SmPL script execution times can be analysed also directly with
> the help of the Coccinelle software by profiling functionality.
> https://github.com/coccinelle/coccinelle/blob/66a1118e04a6aaf1acdae89623313c8e05158a8d/docs/manual/spatch_options.tex#L736

OK, so --profile allows to analyze in which of its parts Coccinelle
spends the extra time.

>> The current version checks if source and destination are of the same type,
>> and whether the sizeof operand is either said type or an element of source
>> or destination.
>
> The specification of metavariables for pointer types has got some consequences.
>
>
>> The new one does not.
>
> I suggest to use a search for (pointer) expressions instead.
> This approach can trigger other consequences then.

Why don't we need to check the type?

>> So I don't see claim 4 ("Increase the precision") fulfilled,
>
> I tried to express an adjustment on the change granularity by the plus
> and minus characters at the beginning of the lines in the semantic patch.

Hmm, to me "precision" means to transform exactly those cases that are
intended to be transformed, i.e. to avoid false positives and negatives.
What you seem to mean here I'd rather describe as "reduce duplication".

> The SmPL disjunctions provide also more common functionality now.
>
>
>> quite the opposite rather.
>
> The search for compatible pointers can become even more challenging.

It's what we currently have, in an a clunky way.

>> I think an automatic transformation should only be generated if it is safe.
>
> Different expectations can occur around safety and change convenience.
>
> Would you eventually work with SmPL script variants in parallel according
> to different confidence settings?

Me?  No.  If I can't trust automatic transformations then I don't want
them.  I can already generate bugs fast enough manually, thank you
very much. :)

René

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-12 15:08 coccinelle: adjustments for array.cocci? Markus Elfring
2019-11-12 18:37 ` René Scharfe
2019-11-13  2:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-13  8:49     ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-14  2:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-14 13:15         ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-14 16:41           ` René Scharfe
2019-11-14 17:14             ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-14 17:46               ` René Scharfe
2019-11-15 11:11                 ` git-coccinelle: " Markus Elfring
2019-11-15 14:20                   ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-15 18:50                   ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-16  1:00                     ` [Cocci] " Julia Lawall
2019-11-16  6:57                       ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-16  8:29                       ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-16 17:57                   ` Julia Lawall
2019-11-16 18:29                     ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-15 20:37   ` coccinelle: " Markus Elfring
2019-11-16 21:13     ` René Scharfe
2019-11-17  7:56       ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-17 13:40         ` René Scharfe
2019-11-17 18:19           ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-19 19:14             ` René Scharfe
2019-11-19 20:21               ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-21 19:01                 ` René Scharfe
2019-11-16 16:33   ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-16 21:38     ` René Scharfe
2019-11-17  8:19       ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-17 13:40         ` René Scharfe
2019-11-17 18:36           ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-19 19:15             ` René Scharfe
2019-11-18 16:10           ` [PATCH] coccinelle: improve array.cocci Markus Elfring
2019-11-19 19:15             ` René Scharfe
2019-11-20  9:01               ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-21 19:02                 ` René Scharfe [this message]
2019-11-21 19:44                   ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-22 15:29                     ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-22 16:17                       ` Markus Elfring
2019-11-22  5:54               ` [PATCH] " Junio C Hamano
2019-11-22  7:34                 ` Markus Elfring
2020-01-25  8:23             ` Markus Elfring

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