From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andreas Ericsson Subject: Re: Why Is There No Bug Tracker And Why Are Patches Sent Instead Of Pull Requests Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:18:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4F50D6C6.3080909@op5.se> References: <7vhay9tqs6.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <20120229225304.GA9099@burratino> <8762eoimp0.fsf@thomas.inf.ethz.ch> <7vmx80nt68.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> <4F504699.3070406@gmail.com> <20120302041924.GG5248@burratino> <4F505F8C.70802@gmail.com> <7vsjhrfprz.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Neal Kreitzinger , Jonathan Nieder , Thomas Rast , Andrew Ardill , opticyclic , git@vger.kernel.org To: Junio C Hamano X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Mar 02 15:18:52 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S3TJr-0005TW-Gy for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:18:51 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752991Ab2CBOSr (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:18:47 -0500 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com ([209.85.215.46]:44191 "EHLO mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751283Ab2CBOSq (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:18:46 -0500 Received: by lahj13 with SMTP id j13so2084697lah.19 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of exon@op5.com designates 10.152.131.9 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.131.9; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of exon@op5.com designates 10.152.131.9 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=exon@op5.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.131.9]) by 10.152.131.9 with SMTP id oi9mr8867711lab.6.1330697925230 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.131.9 with SMTP id oi9mr7271318lab.6.1330697925148; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from vix.int.op5.se (sth-vpn1.op5.com. [193.201.96.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hv2sm8228036lbb.9.2012.03.02.06.18.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:18:44 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.16 ThunderGit/0.1a In-Reply-To: <7vsjhrfprz.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk8vC7Q4TquJ/v8SwPay2hV8n149TMqtcKO1LML5rKDqCEH61l8LW4YIDHZVR06hPS2kRut Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 03/02/2012 08:03 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote: ... a very concise and exact response. > > In any case, any solution that demands more things to be done by people > near the core developers than they currently are already doing will make > things worse by exacerbating the problem that comes from a bottleneck in > the process. I do not think your "The maintainer triages and assigns > issues to other developers" or "The assigned developer marks the issue as > 'done' after fixing it" will fly very well, regardless of the use of any > bug tracker. > It works very well when there's the incentive of roof over one's head and food on one's table to take care of the assigned issues. However, nothing stops a git developer from saying "sorry, I'm busy" when being assigned really, really boring tasks that they really don't feel like doing. One thing I could see a bugtracker would be good for is to get companies that use git to vote on issues or features using real money. Developers can then pick up the issue and do something with them. Apart from that, I doubt there's much incentive for the people who do any of the work to pick up issues nobody cares about. The number of bugs falling through the cracks is too small to go through a lot of work just to keep track of them, and the ones that do are ones that are primarily of the bikeshedding variant or such weird corner-cases that they don't happen in 99.999% of all use-cases git was designed for and is bid to handle. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace.