From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael J Gruber Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Makefile: Turn off the configure target by default Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:28:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4CB32D15.4080204@drmicha.warpmail.net> References: <36e21bdafd75e95f1e13437f81067c71c7390408.1286783121.git.git@drmicha.warpmail.net> <4CB2FEB8.3050705@drmicha.warpmail.net> <201010111718.39996.jnareb@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano To: Jakub Narebski X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon Oct 11 17:28:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P5KIQ-0006qC-TW for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:28:15 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755218Ab0JKP2I convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:28:08 -0400 Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:37740 "EHLO out5.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754843Ab0JKP2H (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:28:07 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2AF5A0; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:28:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=w9dkQ+scpN/IeJ06eE81BmBKlQE=; b=XL28J+ccbXdeqsTwUju1sBykEo7lWjE0IyCNvuNW9Fpu/dC2TyXNrSIRD9P/xFP82ScuOBz6VBSGHQuoBvxi85rc/I7ZfmKRjx/zL8LbWhY1Nb+QNbTGhA4ckMm13DkyhnNqtDpDTSF9tgUNGHixb8llftRJYv2VzwLmsG5ndw8= X-Sasl-enc: EzvsIsuQpAKNrWLZqSJJLWq7CXRj2c32G7Qt/C8hZ7iy 1286810886 Received: from localhost.localdomain (heawood.math.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.44.4]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF8B65EBAE1; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:28:05 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100921 Fedora/3.1.4-1.fc13 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.4 In-Reply-To: <201010111718.39996.jnareb@gmail.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Jakub Narebski venit, vidit, dixit 11.10.2010 17:18: > Dnia poniedzia=C5=82ek 11. pa=C5=BAdziernika 2010 14:10, Michael J Gr= uber napisa=C5=82: >> =C3=86var Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0 Bjarmason venit, vidit, dixit 11.10.201= 0 11:40: >>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:39, Jakub Narebski wr= ote: >>> =2E.. >> configure is a second class citizen in git.git (we even explicitly >> .gitignore it - if you allow that lame joke), >=20 > We .gitignore 'configure' script because it is *generated* file, and > generated files should be not, as rule, placed under version control. I don't know which part of "joke" was unclear? >=20 >> But, really, the typical responses to build problems with configure >> indicate that most long timers don't use configure either, and proba= bly >> don't feel too comfortable with it. So, I think we should either mak= e >> the status quo clearer (Makefile as primary method) or change the st= atus >> quo. I can only do the former ;) >=20 > Because ./configure script enhances Makefile rather than generate it, > using configure script can only improve situation (at the cost of ext= ra > cycles spent detecting)... well, with exception of rare cases bugs in > configure.ac making it misdetect. My observations on the list don't quite confirm that "configure" can only improve the make situation, but I don't use it myself. So, I'll le= t those give configure advice who use it. Michael