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From: Liu Yubao <yubao.liu@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git list <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: two questions about the format of loose object
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:28:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4933AE55.2090007@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7voczws3np.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Liu Yubao <yubao.liu@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> A hint for understanding why loose objects are compressed is that
> packfiles were invented much later in the history of git.
> 
> These are both good questions, and it might have made a difference if they
> were posed in early April 2005.
> 
> At this point, the plain and clear answer to both of these "Why not"
> questions is "because that is the way it is and it is costly to change
> them now in thousands of repositories people use every day."
> 
> In other words, it is not interesting anymore to raise these questions
> now, especially as a suggestion to change the system, unless they are
> accompanied by arguments that convinces everybody that the cost of such a
> change outweighs the benefits, and a clear transition plans how to upgrade
> everybody's existing repositories without any pain.
> 

Thanks for your explanation, but I doubt if it's too costly to change the
format of loose object, after all this doesn't change the format of pack
file and affect git-pull/fetch of old git client. 

I ask the "why not" questions because I doubt if I miss some technical points
that the change isn't worth at all in fact.

If no severe technical problem will occur, I think it's worth breaking
*forward* compatibility for better performance and I'm willing to implement
it.

Some cons and pros.

cons:

* old git client can't read loose objects in new format
  (People degrade git rarely and old git can read pack files
   generated by new git, so it's not a big problem)

pros:

* avoid compressing and uncompressing loose objects that are likely
  frequently used when you are coding/merging
* share loose objects among multipe git processes
* the new code path is simpler although we will have more code paths for
  compatibility


Best regards,

Liu Yubao

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-01  8:00 two questions about the format of loose object Liu Yubao
2008-12-01  8:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-12-01  9:28   ` Liu Yubao [this message]
2008-12-01 11:32     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-12-02  2:19       ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-01 15:21     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-02  2:43       ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  1:48   ` [PATCH 0/5] support reading and writing uncompressed " Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  1:51   ` [PATCH 1/5] avoid parse_sha1_header() accessing memory out of bound Liu Yubao
2008-12-02 15:42     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-03  3:49       ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  1:53   ` [PATCH 2/5] don't die immediately when convert an invalid type name Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  1:55   ` [PATCH 3/5] optimize parse_sha1_header() a little by detecting object type Liu Yubao
2008-12-02 15:53     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-03  4:06       ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  1:56   ` [PATCH 4/5] support reading uncompressed loose object Liu Yubao
2008-12-02 15:58     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-03  4:09       ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  2:03   ` [PATCH 5/5] support writing " Liu Yubao
2008-12-02 16:07     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-03  4:22       ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-02  3:11   ` [PATCH 0/5] support reading and " Liu Yubao
2008-12-01 12:16 ` two questions about the format of " Nick Andrew
2008-12-02  2:26   ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-01 15:32 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-12-02  3:05   ` Liu Yubao
2008-12-04  0:54     ` Nicolas Pitre

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